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Assuming the pilots lives at the Out base, the OOB-WS will pay him more than the in base GS that you are snagging will pay him, because it won't ever get to him for OOB-GS if they are flowing line wine at step 18.
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OOB WS is step # 6 in coverage.....GS is #18 and OOB GS is #20.
Assuming the pilots lives at the Out base, the OOB-WS will pay him more than the in base GS that you are snagging will pay him, because it won't ever get to him for OOB-GS if they are flowing line wine at step 18.
Assuming the pilots lives at the Out base, the OOB-WS will pay him more than the in base GS that you are snagging will pay him, because it won't ever get to him for OOB-GS if they are flowing line wine at step 18.
I once met a pilot in NYC crew lounge that I knew, he was happy about a 2 day OOB-GS, but was incommutable on both ends. When I pointed out that all he agreed to was an OOB WS where he picked up the hotel on the first and last day......his enthusiasm definitely dipped about the trip.
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N156DL
I saw N156DL sitting over at TOC north the other day. The tail and logos were painted over and according to FlightAware it came in from SBD. The owner is listed as some cargo company. Anyone know if we’re getting it back? Or is it just over here for some work before it goes over to its new owner?
I saw N156DL sitting over at TOC north the other day. The tail and logos were painted over and according to FlightAware it came in from SBD. The owner is listed as some cargo company. Anyone know if we’re getting it back? Or is it just over here for some work before it goes over to its new owner?
N156DL is not coming back to the Delta fleet, but delivering packages to a front porch near you, soon. It was registered to CAM in September 2021 and arrived in ATL on 12 November. This is a 30 year old airframe, one of the Gulf Air ships. If I recall correctly, their oddity was a lack of lav gauges and potable water gauges, always necessitating a call to ops to verify service. Maybe they had only one jump seat too, or am I thinking of Transworld 757s?
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Registered to Cargo Aircraft Management (CAM) out of Wilmington, Delaware. I looked them up. Leasing company that seems to specialize in various Boeing freighters but their website is touting a 321 freighter too, with two in the pipeline for conversion. They handle conversion management and provide ACMI services also according to the web site. Amazon Prime, ATI, Omni and ABX and Cargojet are customers. I'm guessing that they own "Air Drake" also. The Canadian rapper has his "own" VIP B-767, managed by Cargojet. I discovered that just after assuming I had the baddest-a$$ executive jet on the Signature LAX ramp (Delta 757C) and thinking "that's a cute little jet" regarding the G-650 on the left when the Owl logo 767 pulled up on the right. Rappers and oil barons steal the thunder .... my superiority complex needed adjustment anyhow!
N156DL is not coming back to the Delta fleet, but delivering packages to a front porch near you, soon. It was registered to CAM in September 2021 and arrived in ATL on 12 November. This is a 30 year old airframe, one of the Gulf Air ships. If I recall correctly, their oddity was a lack of lav gauges and potable water gauges, always necessitating a call to ops to verify service. Maybe they had only one jump seat too, or am I thinking of Transworld 757s?
N156DL is not coming back to the Delta fleet, but delivering packages to a front porch near you, soon. It was registered to CAM in September 2021 and arrived in ATL on 12 November. This is a 30 year old airframe, one of the Gulf Air ships. If I recall correctly, their oddity was a lack of lav gauges and potable water gauges, always necessitating a call to ops to verify service. Maybe they had only one jump seat too, or am I thinking of Transworld 757s?
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Right, and if a pilot is used to having to commute a day ahead or stay a day after the trip, a 2 day base GS may be the same as working (pay wise) as a 4 day OOB WS.
I once met a pilot in NYC crew lounge that I knew, he was happy about a 2 day OOB-GS, but was incommutable on both ends. When I pointed out that all he agreed to was an OOB WS where he picked up the hotel on the first and last day......his enthusiasm definitely dipped about the trip.
I once met a pilot in NYC crew lounge that I knew, he was happy about a 2 day OOB-GS, but was incommutable on both ends. When I pointed out that all he agreed to was an OOB WS where he picked up the hotel on the first and last day......his enthusiasm definitely dipped about the trip.
I’m late to the party on this, but who cares where they live or why they did it. It’s in the PWA. If you don’t like the fact that they exercised their contractual rights, take it up with ALPA. It’s not their fault. Unless you would be willing to waive one of your pwa rights so that someone else could benefit. Not directed at you nene, it’s for the general “they took my GS with their WS” crowd.
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You might have misunderstood the post you quoted
Had a GS question and was debating submitting it to ACE but I know they’re backlogged so figured I’d ask the gurus here first. Got an ARCOS call with 2 rotations in a batch size of 2. One was locked with the message N/O DNO 021 Violation Not Qual Spec Airport. The only airports served were SEA, LAX, LIH, and ONT. The ONT was exit only and it was a deadhead. Looked it up and ONT is only a level one special airport; I’ve used it as an alternate many times. The senior guy took that trip anyway so not due any pay but I’m curious about future trips. Thanks gents.
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Do you still need a back up flight with positive space commuting?
Or is it considered good enough since Company is guaranteeing you a seat?
Or is it considered good enough since Company is guaranteeing you a seat?
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