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04-02-2010, 05:30 PM
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It states 36 bid periods (months) plus 180 days from SOC.
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04-02-2010, 05:38 PM
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So you're saying that if I got bumped last April and began receiving the pay protection around then, that I will get the higher pay rate for roughly 3 1/2 years from SOC?
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04-02-2010, 05:42 PM
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This will hold true until someone junior to you bids a more senior jet. If that jet is not the jet that you were previously on, you will get the difference from your previous jet and the jet the pilot junior to you went to.
Remember that to receive pay protection no pilot junior to you can be on the MDed jet (yours) anywhere in the system. Once that happens the above will hold true.
I would expect that to happen in within the next two AE's.
For example 7ER fo displaced to the m88. Get 7ER pay.
Junior pilot gets the 320, you will get the difference between 7ER/767 pay and 320 pay.
Remember that to receive pay protection no pilot junior to you can be on the MDed jet (yours) anywhere in the system. Once that happens the above will hold true.
I would expect that to happen in within the next two AE's.
For example 7ER fo displaced to the m88. Get 7ER pay.
Junior pilot gets the 320, you will get the difference between 7ER/767 pay and 320 pay.
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04-02-2010, 05:46 PM
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Amend JCBA Attachment A, Section 4 I. 3. as follows:
3. For a period of 36 months following CBAID, a pilot who is displaced via an MD (or involuntary displacement) to a position with a lesser composite hourly pay rate will be pay protected for the hours paid to him in his current category.
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04-02-2010, 05:50 PM
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Delta CEO to workers: Call cops...
Didn't want the momentum to slow on this thread, so...
Delta CEO to workers: Call cops if union threatens
By Harry R. Weber • The Associated Press •
ATLANTA - The chief of the world's biggest airline is encouraging his employees to call police if they feel threatened by union representatives he says are showing up at their homes unannounced.
Delta Air Lines' two biggest work groups - ground workers and flight attendants - have yet to resolve representation following Delta's 2008 acquisition of Northwest Airlines. Both groups were non-union at pre-merger Delta, but union at pre-merger Northwest.
Ground workers include gate, reservation and ticket agents and ramp and cargo workers. Along with flight attendants they number roughly 50,000 employees at Delta, a spokeswoman has said.
CEO Richard Anderson told employees in a recorded message Thursday that some workers claim International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers representatives have frightened their spouses or children and, in some cases, blocked their driveways, preventing them from leaving.
"Conduct like this is harassment. It's wrong," Anderson said. "This is not how we treat people at Delta."
IAM spokesman Joseph Tiberi denies those allegations. He said IAM representatives have been respectful to workers, and he accused Delta of impeding efforts by the IAM to meet with employees in their workplace.
"If an employee did not want to speak with us, we moved on," Tiberi said of the home visits.
Anderson told employees that the appropriate way for unions to communicate with employees includes newsletters, Web sites and approaching workers in workplace break rooms.
Tiberi responded, "What he may be saying has not been what's happening in practice."
Tiberi said union representatives have not received a response from Delta management to their request for a meeting to discuss meeting with employees in the workplace and other related issues.
Delta spokeswoman Chris Kelly said the airline is unaware of the meeting request referred to by Tiberi. She suggested in an e-mail to the Associated Press that the company is not surprised by what the IAM had to say in general.
"We would not expect the IAM to admit to some of the aggressive tactics that are being reported by concerned Delta employees," Kelly said.
Delta, based in Atlanta, has already resolved representation for pilots and some smaller work groups. It is operating on a single operating certificate and reservation system, and it has phased out the Northwest code and Web site.
For unions that represented Northwest workers before the merger to continue to represent workers in their work group at the combined airline, an election must be held and the union must be approved. Approval requires a majority vote of the entire work group, with those who don't vote counted as "No" votes. The unions want to change that rule to allow for a majority of those who vote to carry the day
Delta CEO to workers: Call cops if union threatens
By Harry R. Weber • The Associated Press •
ATLANTA - The chief of the world's biggest airline is encouraging his employees to call police if they feel threatened by union representatives he says are showing up at their homes unannounced.
Delta Air Lines' two biggest work groups - ground workers and flight attendants - have yet to resolve representation following Delta's 2008 acquisition of Northwest Airlines. Both groups were non-union at pre-merger Delta, but union at pre-merger Northwest.
Ground workers include gate, reservation and ticket agents and ramp and cargo workers. Along with flight attendants they number roughly 50,000 employees at Delta, a spokeswoman has said.
CEO Richard Anderson told employees in a recorded message Thursday that some workers claim International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers representatives have frightened their spouses or children and, in some cases, blocked their driveways, preventing them from leaving.
"Conduct like this is harassment. It's wrong," Anderson said. "This is not how we treat people at Delta."
IAM spokesman Joseph Tiberi denies those allegations. He said IAM representatives have been respectful to workers, and he accused Delta of impeding efforts by the IAM to meet with employees in their workplace.
"If an employee did not want to speak with us, we moved on," Tiberi said of the home visits.
Anderson told employees that the appropriate way for unions to communicate with employees includes newsletters, Web sites and approaching workers in workplace break rooms.
Tiberi responded, "What he may be saying has not been what's happening in practice."
Tiberi said union representatives have not received a response from Delta management to their request for a meeting to discuss meeting with employees in the workplace and other related issues.
Delta spokeswoman Chris Kelly said the airline is unaware of the meeting request referred to by Tiberi. She suggested in an e-mail to the Associated Press that the company is not surprised by what the IAM had to say in general.
"We would not expect the IAM to admit to some of the aggressive tactics that are being reported by concerned Delta employees," Kelly said.
Delta, based in Atlanta, has already resolved representation for pilots and some smaller work groups. It is operating on a single operating certificate and reservation system, and it has phased out the Northwest code and Web site.
For unions that represented Northwest workers before the merger to continue to represent workers in their work group at the combined airline, an election must be held and the union must be approved. Approval requires a majority vote of the entire work group, with those who don't vote counted as "No" votes. The unions want to change that rule to allow for a majority of those who vote to carry the day
04-02-2010, 06:10 PM
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Didn't want the momentum to slow on this thread, so...
Delta CEO to workers: Call cops if union threatens
By Harry R. Weber • The Associated Press •
ATLANTA - The chief of the world's biggest airline is encouraging his employees to call police if they feel threatened by union representatives he says are showing up at their homes unannounced.
Delta Air Lines' two biggest work groups - ground workers and flight attendants - have yet to resolve representation following Delta's 2008 acquisition of Northwest Airlines. Both groups were non-union at pre-merger Delta, but union at pre-merger Northwest.
Ground workers include gate, reservation and ticket agents and ramp and cargo workers. Along with flight attendants they number roughly 50,000 employees at Delta, a spokeswoman has said.
CEO Richard Anderson told employees in a recorded message Thursday that some workers claim International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers representatives have frightened their spouses or children and, in some cases, blocked their driveways, preventing them from leaving.
"Conduct like this is harassment. It's wrong," Anderson said. "This is not how we treat people at Delta."
IAM spokesman Joseph Tiberi denies those allegations. He said IAM representatives have been respectful to workers, and he accused Delta of impeding efforts by the IAM to meet with employees in their workplace.
"If an employee did not want to speak with us, we moved on," Tiberi said of the home visits.
Anderson told employees that the appropriate way for unions to communicate with employees includes newsletters, Web sites and approaching workers in workplace break rooms.
Tiberi responded, "What he may be saying has not been what's happening in practice."
Tiberi said union representatives have not received a response from Delta management to their request for a meeting to discuss meeting with employees in the workplace and other related issues.
Delta spokeswoman Chris Kelly said the airline is unaware of the meeting request referred to by Tiberi. She suggested in an e-mail to the Associated Press that the company is not surprised by what the IAM had to say in general.
"We would not expect the IAM to admit to some of the aggressive tactics that are being reported by concerned Delta employees," Kelly said.
Delta, based in Atlanta, has already resolved representation for pilots and some smaller work groups. It is operating on a single operating certificate and reservation system, and it has phased out the Northwest code and Web site.
For unions that represented Northwest workers before the merger to continue to represent workers in their work group at the combined airline, an election must be held and the union must be approved. Approval requires a majority vote of the entire work group, with those who don't vote counted as "No" votes. The unions want to change that rule to allow for a majority of those who vote to carry the day
Delta CEO to workers: Call cops if union threatens
By Harry R. Weber • The Associated Press •
ATLANTA - The chief of the world's biggest airline is encouraging his employees to call police if they feel threatened by union representatives he says are showing up at their homes unannounced.
Delta Air Lines' two biggest work groups - ground workers and flight attendants - have yet to resolve representation following Delta's 2008 acquisition of Northwest Airlines. Both groups were non-union at pre-merger Delta, but union at pre-merger Northwest.
Ground workers include gate, reservation and ticket agents and ramp and cargo workers. Along with flight attendants they number roughly 50,000 employees at Delta, a spokeswoman has said.
CEO Richard Anderson told employees in a recorded message Thursday that some workers claim International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers representatives have frightened their spouses or children and, in some cases, blocked their driveways, preventing them from leaving.
"Conduct like this is harassment. It's wrong," Anderson said. "This is not how we treat people at Delta."
IAM spokesman Joseph Tiberi denies those allegations. He said IAM representatives have been respectful to workers, and he accused Delta of impeding efforts by the IAM to meet with employees in their workplace.
"If an employee did not want to speak with us, we moved on," Tiberi said of the home visits.
Anderson told employees that the appropriate way for unions to communicate with employees includes newsletters, Web sites and approaching workers in workplace break rooms.
Tiberi responded, "What he may be saying has not been what's happening in practice."
Tiberi said union representatives have not received a response from Delta management to their request for a meeting to discuss meeting with employees in the workplace and other related issues.
Delta spokeswoman Chris Kelly said the airline is unaware of the meeting request referred to by Tiberi. She suggested in an e-mail to the Associated Press that the company is not surprised by what the IAM had to say in general.
"We would not expect the IAM to admit to some of the aggressive tactics that are being reported by concerned Delta employees," Kelly said.
Delta, based in Atlanta, has already resolved representation for pilots and some smaller work groups. It is operating on a single operating certificate and reservation system, and it has phased out the Northwest code and Web site.
For unions that represented Northwest workers before the merger to continue to represent workers in their work group at the combined airline, an election must be held and the union must be approved. Approval requires a majority vote of the entire work group, with those who don't vote counted as "No" votes. The unions want to change that rule to allow for a majority of those who vote to carry the day
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04-02-2010, 06:15 PM
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3. For a period of 36 months following CBAID, a pilot who is displaced via an MD
(or involuntary displacement) to a position with a lesser composite hourly pay rate
will be pay protected for the hours paid to him in his current category. Such pay
protection will be for the difference in the composite hourly pay rate applicable to
the position from which he was displaced and the highest paying position his
seniority allows him to hold. This provision will no longer be applicable when a
pilot’s seniority allows him to hold a position of equal or greater pay compared to
the position from which he was displaced. For example, a 757A has as his
preference A-320B and his seniority is sufficient to hold A-320A, the pilot will
only have the dollar difference between A-320A and 757A applied to the hours he
flies as an A-320B. The Company will be excused from compliance with this
provision in the event a circumstance over which the Company does not have
control (as defined in Section 2 A. 37.) is the cause of the pilot’s displacement.
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