Sweet Jesus. They asked for relaxed scope that was limiting their growth???

Any regional pilot group needs to be VERY wary of lifers on their MEC. I'd be willing to bet the majority of comair pilots would rather get a job at Delta someday than "grow" at comair. Sucks that they'll forever be linked with this DBag that was obviously trying for a power play and kicking DAL pilots while they were down.

I'd always heard about this but never read it for myself. Yet another illustration of the conflict of interest that exists within ALPA. Generally what's good for Comair/ASA/etc is not a win for Delta pilots and vice versa. Unless, of course we tighten up the scope and can eventually bring them on here - provided they are not so damn short-sighted and will agree to go to the bottom of the list.

I just re-read it again and am getting more and more ****ed at this lifer loser. He had a choice, and has subsequently hurt those Comair pilots that came behind him.

BTW, how much influence does/did DALPA have regarding hiring candidates? Does mgmt even accept our input regarding issues such as these? Maybe this would be a case to set an example for the industry and take the high road if/when we start hiring again - excluding of course, this clown and all known co-conspirators (and yes I'd interpret co-conspirator to include those that were at comair at the time and did nothing against this.)

 

Any Guesses on the next AE? Rumors?

 

If you need a particular day off, you should call the OE scheduling folks and request a day off. When I went through indoc, they asked us if we had any conflicts and they worked around it. They should be willing to work with you provided they haven't built a schedule for you and changing it requires significant rescheduling of others. I'd call them as soon as you can. It doesn't hurt to ask the question. Beg for forgiveness late.

 

When I went through indoc, there were roughly 60 new hires in the class. Of those new hires, there maybe was one (if that) ComAir folks in my class. ASA made up the majority of our commuter folks.

 

I'm not on the 88, but I just got the call for my first OE trip...starts one day short of a month after I finished 7576 school, which would have been great if I had known I was going to have a month off. When I finished school all I got was "we'll call you when we have something." I called them after about two weeks and got the same line. I get the feeling things are getting backed up pretty bad (or good, depending on how you look at it.)

 

UAL did that as well. They would accept the letter but not process it. When recalls began they would call you to double check if you intended to resign. DAL's policy was reinforced by Kolshak saying that if any Delta pilot wanted to resign it would be accepted. I never knew why we did that. For many it was the difference between finding a flying job or doing a desk job. I hope that God forbid we ever furlough again we change our policy regarding that.

 

Union says May.

 

Thanks,
I'll keep my finger crossed

 

They are that short sited. Right after Delta completed the purchase of Comair and ASA there was a push on within the Delta MEC to attempt to get the company to merge the seniority lists. They held a meeting with Comair and ASA to discuss trying to establish a method to work on this goal. The meeting did not go well and the concept died at Delta. Lawson and another individual who's name I forget made it quite clear what their DEMANDS were. The only exceptable solution for them was that we push for a immediate merger of the lists and it be done by ALPA merger policy and they let it be known that they viewed that as DOH and that was what they would be asking for. No prenuptial agreement would be considered by them other then DOH. That was the end of support from the Delta MEC.

I wonder sometimes if Comair pilots really understand how much damage Lawson and his side kick did to them. I know pilots involved in hiring at several major airlines. Two would be at the top of every pilots list to work for. They all knew what happened at Comair and Comair pilots went into any interview with almost any major airline with a hill to climb others did not have. Sure some got hired but that had to be well above the other applicants.

 

They did it because ALPA stated the Comair MEC could not get its' own scope that bound Delta to the allocation of RJ flying. The Comair MEC correctly foresaw the whipsaw that would result in the majority of the flying Comair had traditionally performed being outsourced to non union and non ALPA members.

Lawson tried to get the Delta pilots to negotiate with him. He would gladly help change Comair Management's policy if the Delta MEC would help change ALPA's policy towards scope that shut out the Comair pilots. In my opinion it was wrong to use furloughed pilots as bargaining chips but consider:

• The Delta MEC could have simply negotiated with Delta management who owned and controlled Comair.
• The Delta MEC could have helped Comair secure its flying and keep more flying inside ALPA (rather than Teamsters and SkyWest)
• The Comair pilots' nightmare scenario really came true. Their projections were correct.

As far as Comair getting hired at Delta, we had three in my class. None worked at Comair during the strike. It is my impression that management has not forgot the $330,000.00 each striking Comair pilot cost the Company (just my impression).