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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 803455)
No names here, but...what is up with the 7ER OE planning guy? I know he's crazy busy, but that guy is worthless. I can't even get him to give me an estimate of how long I have to wait for TOE. I don't mind the time off, but it'd be nice to have some idea of how long I have to wait.
He is actually a lot better than in the past. He cannot give you an estimate as others have pointed out. When you see a IOE/TOE block of days show up, he has made your paring. He will generally call that day or the next with the details. Each paring needs to be built since you will more than likely be DHing to start and finish the paring. (This is the reason it does not show up) He makes the plans and then planning assigns it a rotation number to put on your line. If you see the IOE/TOE among the NOE days, give him a shout, send an e-mail and leave or leave a message. He will call back. I e-mailed and called. I got a response back at 0730 in the am from him. It is a never ending thankless job, so just have patience. *of note many of the ER qualified LCA's are not able to hold International Atlantic Crossings, which further complicates the issue. It takes time. A few summers ago, ppl were waiting up to three plus months. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 803403)
Burn;
I do know there are a few LCA's that do this already. I cannot imagine that with where the training requirements are going, that we would not see months and months of their schedules dropped, and or blanked out necessitating more Captains to fill the void. They are short on LCA's as is. Add hiring, and more movement, then working in the sim, something will give. I used to work for a company that did it this way, and splitting the departments saved them money. The LCA's only got paid when they flew IOE not SOE. Prior to that they worked in the sim and had every third month on the line. I believe the intent is to get the instructors more in line with the way we do it on the line. We can only work so much, so I see this is a net positive when it comes to A positions in the company. Yep, fo's got to be fo's, but some may upgrade. It will depend on how it is written and what the clauses are. I do not want to see more DGS than we have now. The rules do not need to change in regard to who can check, and who can be in the seat. I would like to see the language for at least 10 days as the Policy Manual states for a comment period prior to the MEC voting on it, if or when it is LOAed. On a side note, not sure how the LCA's from other bases are going to do sim work here in ATL and MSP when they are not based here. That will add a cost for hotels and travel as they are on company business. Our old way of splitting departments made for a very discontinuous training environment where SIM and OE were 2 different worlds. Having LCAs in on the SIM is a great way to provide quality control with the DGS guys. From my perspective the wide range of experiences the DGS guys have made for somme really good guys and some that just don't have any idea of what goes on on the line. The LCAs will help identify the slackers and get them up to speed or weed them out. I'm not dissing SLIs, but I think this is a good step to improve the quality of the DGS guys. As for the SLIs we should have SLSFs Seniority List Seat Fillers... I don't want to fly one more SIM (esp. 304 and 404) with a hard of hearing DGS guy that has never ever flown the airplane, no idea about CRM and who will never himself be in the same position... YMMV Cheers George |
Does anyone know what is the status on our "Africa through Sal" flying? Still being approved by the gov. or are we pulling out, postponing?
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
(Post 803413)
SIM instructors do not get hotels or per diem if they are out of base. Used to but not any more
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 803395)
Burn,
I am trying to think how this is horrible. First officers get kicked back to the line so that LCA(Captains) can take their place. Therefore they will need more Captains throughout the company as more LCA's are needed to do sim work and line work. If that is not what you are stating correct me. I prefer to see all training done by SLI one way or another. We have some great DGS guys, but we have been lifted by the early retirement group from the earlier part of last decade. Those guys are going to hang it up sooner or later, and who are they going to hire? Not the caliber of pilots we have working for DGS now. |
Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 803517)
From a training quality perspective only, this sounds like a big improvement.
Our old way of splitting departments made for a very discontinuous training environment where SIM and OE were 2 different worlds. Having LCAs in on the SIM is a great way to provide quality control with the DGS guys. From my perspective the wide range of experiences the DGS guys have made for somme really good guys and some that just don't have any idea of what goes on on the line. The LCAs will help identify the slackers and get them up to speed or weed them out. I'm not dissing SLIs, but I think this is a good step to improve the quality of the DGS guys. At issue is are the LCA's being scheduled in the SIMS as part of their line and monthly max, or are they moonlighting on days off? If the latter it's an extra special green slip deal available to only a select few and costs SLI jobs. :mad::eek::mad: |
on the next contract we need to change the pay process. This small check idea on the 1st check is ridiculous. Its like a slap in the face every month. That may have worked 20 years ago but in todays times it would be nicer to have more even out paychecks imho.
No Major airline pilot should ever receive a sub 1000 paycheck. I realize the mid month check makes up for it but this pay method is dumb. Rant over :cool: |
Originally Posted by DAL73n
(Post 803543)
One of the things that should be addressed is training in general. I have been in the SIM with just me and the instructor - it's horrible. With the instructor trying to fill two jobs it is the worst of both worlds. I also believe the two captains or two FOs doesn't even work very well. An FO sitting in the Captain seat doesn't make a very good Captain and a Captain (unless he's a LCA) doesn't make a very good FO. I also agree that the DGS "You'll get it on the line" isn't a very good way to train anybody. Everything we do in the SIM should be the same as on the line (except of course the EMERGENCIES we never want to see on the line :)).
Unless someone has gone through the one on one they have no idea how screwed up that scenario is... The poor DGS guy is trying to do 3 things at one -Run the sim -Instruct -Play Capt/FO It can't be done, invariably something suffers, usually the instructing part because the poor guy is task saturated... You end up doing something completely wrong 4 sims in a row and don't find out until the check... then the new guy goes: "what he hell are you doing" The best part is all along everybody says "this is better than 2 FOs/2Capt." but you never end up getting a chance to observe someone else being trained, so you can learn while watching... Cheers George |
Originally Posted by Fly4hire
(Post 803540)
Rumor is that some instructors from some fleets are getting hotels/per diem/pos space in an under the table deal to keep certain fleets staffed. 744 in MSP in particular. :mad:
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 803554)
on the next contract we need to change the pay process. This small check idea on the 1st check is ridiculous. Its like a slap in the face every month. That may have worked 20 years ago but in todays times it would be nicer to have more even out paychecks imho.
No Major airline pilot should ever receive a sub 1000 paycheck. I realize the mid month check makes up for it but this pay method is dumb. Rant over :cool: |
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