Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
08-13-2010 | 08:55 AM
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08-13-2010 | 09:22 AM
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The story I head was this:
Back in the day all airlines were Air Lines or airways. All of the other airlines were found guilty of price colusion et al and had to basically become different entites, so they went from Air Lines to Airlines. DAL wasnot part of the CAB's findings at the time and therefore kept the Air Lines and did not have to go to airlines like the rest of the companies.
It was during the CAB if I recall correctly.
I recall something along these lines from one of the CAB courses I took in college as well, but that has been many years ago, and I am too lazy to go find my text books in the basement!
Back in the day all airlines were Air Lines or airways. All of the other airlines were found guilty of price colusion et al and had to basically become different entites, so they went from Air Lines to Airlines. DAL wasnot part of the CAB's findings at the time and therefore kept the Air Lines and did not have to go to airlines like the rest of the companies.
It was during the CAB if I recall correctly.
I recall something along these lines from one of the CAB courses I took in college as well, but that has been many years ago, and I am too lazy to go find my text books in the basement!
. History is cool eh?
08-13-2010 | 09:29 AM
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Hey 20 Mile, as one who was actually working at the Clinton White House, which I guess qualifies me to have an opinion, I don't think your "rightwing extremist mother-in-law" is that far off base. Statistically, maybe what you are using for a data base isn't that smart either. Just a suggestion. But, from where I sit, she has it right...and you don't.
Oopss..big ooopss for you. You never know whose watching on these APC sites do you?
Oopss..big ooopss for you. You never know whose watching on these APC sites do you?
08-13-2010 | 09:31 AM
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BUT...don't start your APU until it's 105 in the back, or all -heck- is going to break loose![/quote]
Did you say don't START the APU till it's 105 in the back? Man, on the DC-9, we don't SHUT OFF the APU till it cools down TO 105....
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Did you say don't START the APU till it's 105 in the back? Man, on the DC-9, we don't SHUT OFF the APU till it cools down TO 105....
Chuck
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08-13-2010 | 09:34 AM
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My understanding from revenue folks is people will chose their tickets based on price down to as low as $2. My question is, if the ticket is $525 ATL-LGA, are they buying the $523 ATL-CLT-PHL-LGA and not realizing it? If so, ha ha. Enjoy!
08-13-2010 | 09:39 AM
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Well, of course a call-in talk show represents "a sample." It's just not a statistically significant sample and, therefore, worthless as a basis of drawing correct conclusions.
The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?
What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"
Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.
The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?
What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"
Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.
I think the average, intelligent adult realizes when a talk show they are listening to becomes too radical and stops presenting both sides/alternate angles to a story. The media today prides itself in knee-jerk overreactions, it's up to each individual to take it with a grain of salt or look at it as face value.
Anyway, when is the JFK Terminal 3 Doomsday Countdown Clock starting???
08-13-2010 | 09:40 AM
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08-13-2010 | 09:42 AM
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08-13-2010 | 09:57 AM
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speaking of air, who in the hell teaches the ground crews that a half dozen or so kinks and 120 degree to 180 degree turns in the hose with a three twist gator to the connection is the right way to hook up air. I am forever undoing the hoses. And lav guys, put the hose back the wa... you know, you guys have it rough enough, you get a pass. Everyone else, here comes the APU! Enjoy loading those bags with it.
That kind of stuff is cool. Its funny the idioms that we use that we have no clue where they originated from and its crazy how old (like several centuries) that some of them can be. I found it interesting looking at a map of ATL in the Civil War, you basically see I75, I20, I85-MGM when you look at it.
08-13-2010 | 10:00 AM
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Well, of course a call-in talk show represents "a sample." It's just not a statistically significant sample and, therefore, worthless as a basis of drawing correct conclusions.
The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?
What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"
Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.
The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?
What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"
Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.
As to your questions:
A) This one is easy, Air America has 0% conservative, 0% liberal, 0% moderate, 0% other. Considering it went out of business.
B) 80% of Rush's 15-20M member audience is conservative according to polls. The 14-20M is the estimate of the far right Washi... far left Washington Post and its been estimated to be as high as 30M, given 600 stations and that $400M contract he signed two years ago I guess its possible. But if you go with 14-20M it's, on the low side, two or so million greater per week than the number who watch Fox News and 3 times the number of MSNBC and CNN combined, over a week. Combine CBS, ABC and NBC nightly news of about 18M for a week. All that to say its not small and could represent anywhere from 5% to 10% of the nation.
1. Did the majority of Arkansas citizens vote for Clinton for governor in 1978?
Yes! 43% in 1992, 49.2% in 1996.
2. Did the majority of Arkansas citizens vote for Clinton for governor in 1982, when he ran a second time?
Yes! And he kept the governorship for TEN YEARS until being elected president.
3. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the 1992 presidential election?
Yes! Overwhelmingly so, in fact.
4. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the presidential 1996 election?
Yes! It wasn't even close.
So, you're saying that most of the people in Arkansas didn't like Clinton? Very doubtful.
Surely (and don't call me Shirley), you're not saying that a call-in talk show has statistical significance.
Yes! 43% in 1992, 49.2% in 1996.
2. Did the majority of Arkansas citizens vote for Clinton for governor in 1982, when he ran a second time?
Yes! And he kept the governorship for TEN YEARS until being elected president.
3. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the 1992 presidential election?
Yes! Overwhelmingly so, in fact.
4. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the presidential 1996 election?
Yes! It wasn't even close.
So, you're saying that most of the people in Arkansas didn't like Clinton? Very doubtful.
Surely (and don't call me Shirley), you're not saying that a call-in talk show has statistical significance.
YES! 43% in 1992, 49.2% in 1996.
The combined number of Bush/Perot in 1992 was 56.3%, Dole/Perot was 49.1%.
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