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Originally Posted by satchip
Funny. I was thinking the other way around. The Roberts/Alito/Scalia/Thomas faction are far more likely to stay with what the Constitution says. The other side of the spectrum is the trend to which I am referring. That persuasion is more likely to find rights and discrimination wherever they look.
The more I think about it the more I think management would be against any lifting of the age limit. It would only serve to complicate their long term staffing plans. Imagine trying to figure if hiring was needed based on a moving retirement date.
I think the law is clear, age discrimination is Un Constitutional. The rub will be is the harm done to the individual balanced by the public intrest of safety and the burden placed on business.
OBTW, just because it's precedent, doesn't make it right. Remember Dred Scott and Plessey v Fergeson?
Satchip,
The more I study the U.S. Constitution, the more I realize that there is very little about it that is black and white. What is funny is one of the few things that
is clear in it is that age discrimination
is constitutional.
Article I, Section 2 - Minimum age of a U.S. Representative, 25.
Article I, Section 3 - Minumum age of a U.S. Senator, 30.
Article II, Section 1 -Minimum age of U.S. President, 35.
So, like I said, I don't know what will happen with Age 65, but the precedent is clear. Right or wrong, the Court is more likely to defer to past decisions, if only for the reasons of keeping things consistent. If you change or overturn one decision over here, it could have monumental effects over there. Think of the Constitution and its past and future decisions as a giant house of cards.
The Justices that have appeared to be most willing to unsettle a card or two are Roberts and Alito (mosty Roberts). Also, all of the Justices have their individual issues that they look to the Constitution to to find "rights and discrimination," but that is another story. Admittedly, it is almost impossible to be completely Constitutionally consistent when adjudicating the many kinds of cases that come to the Supreme Court. It's a tough job. That is why they are hesitant to overturn prior decisions.
I know that precedent does not make a ruling right. But I would point out that it took the Civil War and the passing of the 13th and 14th Amendments to overturn Dred Scott. Also, it took 54 years and a masterful litigating strategy, led by Thurgood Marshall, that culminated in Brown v. Board of Education to outweigh Plessy v. Ferguson. (But, if I remember correctly, Brown did not speciffically overrule Plessy)
So, my only point is that it will take a lot to change the Courts thinking and a simple "that's not fair!" won't do it. Many things in this country are not fair and individuals are harmed by governmental actions and decisions every day. Mostly, all that is required is due process. The FAA ruling on Age 65 is due process.
I do agree with you that management would not like to see Age 65 go any higher though.
New K Now
P.S. I love the discussion, but if the powers that be don't want us clogging up "their" board with this, we can move it to another thread.