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Stryder 06-11-2018 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by RightSide (Post 2612293)
Never mind I looked it up instead of being lazy. Thanks.

Now why did you go and do that! I wanted to read the 10 different answers you were going to get.

sailingfun 06-11-2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2612222)
Charging hefty fees for checked bags has led to hefty carry-on bags. I don’t blame any crew member who refuses to risk a back injury by trying to lift an item that should have been stopped at the gate. :mad:

The Song flight attendants did not lift the bags. What they did do was insure the bags were correctly placed in the bins, consolidate smaller items to make additional space and encourage people to step out of the aisles. Really made a difference in boarding. Also reduced the need to gate check bags.

Bucking Bar 06-11-2018 06:09 PM

Sailing,

You may remember that twice in my now 35 years with Delta it was observed the operation was deemed too unreliable for business to use our airline. With OT percentages in the 60's that call is being made again.

In both cases, major accounts sent out internal memos telling employees and contractors not to use Delta.

DELTAFO 06-11-2018 07:23 PM

What exactly is an "assignment" given to someone on the iCrew daily trip coverage?

FL370esq 06-11-2018 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2612646)
What exactly is an "assignment" given to someone on the iCrew daily trip coverage?

If it looks like "A#1," it is an Inverse Assignment.

sailingfun 06-12-2018 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2612609)
Sailing,

You may remember that twice in my now 35 years with Delta it was observed the operation was deemed too unreliable for business to use our airline. With OT percentages in the 60's that call is being made again.

In both cases, major accounts sent out internal memos telling employees and contractors not to use Delta.

I was unaware we are in the sixties. That type of ontime quickly leads to a system collapse with massive crew reroutes. Lasts stats I saw had us in the mid eighties. I have not seen May.
Edit: May ontime posted as 85%

LandGreen2 06-12-2018 05:50 AM

Eyeglasses Alpharetta Area
 
Anyone with recommendations on north side ATL for progressive lenses and familiarity with pilot specific eyeglass needs?

Thank you!

duece12345 06-12-2018 05:50 AM

Question for the 73/320 folks
 
If you have a trip with credit time does it pay at the 738/320 rate or 739/321 rate? Same thing with reserve guarantee, Bigger or smaller rate?

Thanks

hockeypilot44 06-12-2018 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by duece12345 (Post 2612827)
If you have a trip with credit time does it pay at the 738/320 rate or 739/321 rate? Same thing with reserve guarantee, Bigger or smaller rate?

Thanks

I believe trip credit is smaller rate and reserve credit is bigger rate. I haven’t looked in contract in a while.

FlightCrewTools 06-12-2018 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by deadseal (Post 2612171)
Hello all,
Is there an easy way to see the percentage of trips that originate out of SNA and ONT for the 717? Trying to get a feel for what they do and don’t want to count each one in the bid package if able.
Thanks

You can see this using our AE Tool for previous months.

Select LAX717 (A or B) and whichever month you want to check. Then once the bid package loads up you can filter by Checkin Station to see an exact count of trips that match the station you put in. If the station doesn’t appear in the filter, that indicates there aren’t any reports there for the given bid period.

The AE Tool is free for all Delta pilots:

https://flightcrewtools.com

NoDeskJob 06-12-2018 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by FlightCrewTools (Post 2612910)
You can see this using our AE Tool for previous months.

Select LAX717 (A or B) and whichever month you want to check. Then once the bid package loads up you can filter by Checkin Station to see an exact count of trips that match the station you put in. If the station doesn’t appear in the filter, that indicates there aren’t any reports there for the given bid period.

The AE Tool is free for all Delta pilots:

https://flightcrewtools.com

Just for another year or 2, until the 717s relocate to ATL and the 320 goes out west. :) :)

Bucking Bar 06-12-2018 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2612741)
I was unaware we are in the sixties. That type of ontime quickly leads to a system collapse with massive crew reroutes. Lasts stats I saw had us in the mid eighties. I have not seen May.
Edit: May ontime posted as 85%

Look again. We are 61% for 11 June.

There is not a second to spare in the June and July schedules. A rain drop is a rolling delay.

Worse for our customers is that when they misconnect to the afternoon/evening international push we say "so sorry... weather." We bounced the CFO of a division of IBM last week. He's a FF Delta One.

Conversational with two members of Delta's BOD. I LMTCB

If we value our revenue premium then changes must be made. If we aspire to be US Air dba American, then we're on track.

Personally, I prefer the road less traveled.

gloopy 06-12-2018 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Dustycrophopper (Post 2611743)
Heads up with more and more 321 coming online at Delta and other airlines. The wake turbulence from this thing is no joke. Encountered it yesterday and had full scale deflection with no response for a couple seconds.
My top three wake turbulence encounters have all been 321s under calm winds

RECAT is absolutely asinine. File an ASAP and report the proper level of wake turbulence to tower/departure as appropriate.

hockeypilot44 06-13-2018 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2612944)
Look again. We are 61% for 11 June.

There is not a second to spare in the June and July schedules. A rain drop is a rolling delay.

Worse for our customers is that when they misconnect to the afternoon/evening international push we say "so sorry... weather." We bounced the CFO of a division of IBM last week. He's a FF Delta One.

Conversational with two members of Delta's BOD. I LMTCB

If we value our revenue premium then changes must be made. If we aspire to be US Air dba American, then we're on track.

Personally, I prefer the road less traveled.

Flew a flight last week to Atlanta. Had to do a long downwind for PRM’s with a landing on 28 and a 15 minute taxi-in. Other than that flight had no issues. We had left on time. We arrived 16 minutes late. That is unacceptable. They’ve cut too much block time off. A PRM approach to 10/28 shouldn’t cause us to go over block. That probably happens 1/3 to 1/4 of the flights. That guarantees us an on-time percentage no greater than 66 to 75 percent. These percentages are made-up ballpark based on my personal experience, but they’re not too far off.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2018 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2612944)
Look again. We are 61% for 11 June.

There is not a second to spare in the June and July schedules. A rain drop is a rolling delay.

Worse for our customers is that when they misconnect to the afternoon/evening international push we say "so sorry... weather." We bounced the CFO of a division of IBM last week. He's a FF Delta One.

Conversational with two members of Delta's BOD. I LMTCB

If we value our revenue premium then changes must be made. If we aspire to be US Air dba American, then we're on track.

Personally, I prefer the road less traveled.

I know you’re upset about what happened to you, but that is a daily meter. The day you got hosed, ATL got slammed by 2 waves of storms. It’s 79 today for A0, which is back to normal. No carrier in the world runs an operation as well as we do, and it continues to get better. It’s been weeks since I’ve gone past A0, and that is with quite a few departures that missed D0.

ERflyer 06-13-2018 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2613469)
Flew a flight last week to Atlanta. Had to do a long downwind for PRM’s with a landing on 28 and a 15 minute taxi-in. Other than that flight had no issues. We had left on time. We arrived 16 minutes late. That is unacceptable. They’ve cut too much block time off. A PRM approach to 10/28 shouldn’t cause us to go over block. That probably happens 1/3 to 1/4 of the flights. That guarantees us an on-time percentage no greater than 66 to 75 percent. These percentages are made-up ballpark based on my personal experience, but they’re not too far off.

The mantra has become “save money at any cost”. Unfortunately many times they never do a cost benefit analysis or look at the downside. Reduced blocktimes is a good example.

Also heard international meals will no longer be served on a tray in coach to save money. Saves money by not paying caterers to put food on trays. The test flight PDX-NRT has the meal service consistently lasting 4-5 hours with food all over tables and seats. So much for sleeping for business people - or any pax for that matter. Look for this soon on all international flights. Pax don’t really want it but “they” are going to jam it down and make it happen so Inflight can say they’ve “saved” money.

sailingfun 06-13-2018 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2613477)
The mantra has become “save money at any cost”. Unfortunately many times they never do a cost benefit analysis or look at the downside. Reduced blocktimes is a good example.

Do you really believe this? Did you read what goes into building just rotations on the reliability side?

Also heard international meals will no longer be served on a tray in coach to save money. Saves money by not paying caterers to put food on trays. The test flight PDX-NRT has the meal service consistently lasting 4-5 hours with food all over tables and seats. So much for sleeping for business people - or any pax for that matter. Look for this soon on all international flights. Pax don’t really want it but “they” are going to jam it down and make it happen so Inflight can say they’ve “saved” money.

The test service that took 4 hours on a PDX flight was a new business service. Had nothing to do with coach. It was also a test to see how it worked. They are changing it.

Bucking Bar 06-13-2018 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2613473)
I know you’re upset about what happened to you, but that is a daily meter. The day you got hosed, ATL got slammed by 2 waves of storms. It’s 79 today for A0, which is back to normal. No carrier in the world runs an operation as well as we do, and it continues to get better.

79% isn't acceptable either, not when you run a network carrier with late afternoon and evening push.

The thing is, this is manageable and we are being managed to break it.

We hire great crews who want to run the best operation in the world. Then we publish a schedule which sets them up to fail.

When we wonder why BOB showed up, we need to remember who sent BOB the invitation.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2018 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 2613469)
Flew a flight last week to Atlanta. Had to do a long downwind for PRM’s with a landing on 28 and a 15 minute taxi-in. Other than that flight had no issues. We had left on time. We arrived 16 minutes late. That is unacceptable. They’ve cut too much block time off. A PRM approach to 10/28 shouldn’t cause us to go over block. That probably happens 1/3 to 1/4 of the flights. That guarantees us an on-time percentage no greater than 66 to 75 percent. These percentages are made-up ballpark based on my personal experience, but they’re not too far off.

I’ve consistently underblocked by up to 28 minutes in the last few weeks...

80ktsClamp 06-13-2018 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 2613495)
79% isn't acceptable either, not when you run a network carrier with late afternoon and evening push.

The thing is, this is manageable and we are managing to break it.

Sure, sure... keep doubling down. What would be acceptable in your book so we can post it on Deltanet? Maybe if Kessler hadn’t have been canned it would be better?

Han Solo 06-13-2018 05:30 AM

I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

80ktsClamp 06-13-2018 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

The air even when hooked up can’t keep up on 80+ days with people on board... with an A321, I usually just turn it off when we start boarding anyways. Better ACs would pay off in spades...

trustbutverify 06-13-2018 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2613498)
Sure, sure... keep doubling down. What would be acceptable in your book so we can post it on Deltanet? Maybe if Kessler hadn’t have been canned it would be better?

I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

sailingfun 06-13-2018 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2613562)
I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

Crew resources has nothing to do with block times for flights. The block times are set in other divisions. They just schedule to what marketing gives them. They can make a input but flight scheduling is above their pay grade.

LeineLodge 06-13-2018 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2613498)
Sure, sure... keep doubling down. What would be acceptable in your book so we can post it on Deltanet? Maybe if Kessler hadn’t have been canned it would be better?


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2613562)
I don't know anything about the Kessler situation (other than a change needed to happen in that committee). As far as the on-time thing goes, I think BB is right based on a couple of things - my personal experience and the on-time percentage tracker that is shown on Deltanet. I've had a lot of flights lately that pushed on time and ended up late for enroute weather deviations. Since weather deviations have always been there, the only variable that could be causing this is the lack of credit time buffers.

The Deltanet daily on-time tracker has been showing less than the goal more than 50% of the times I checked. The goal is always low 80's and hasn't been an issue until recently.

It's not a good trend. And from what I can see, it's brought about by penny pinching the credit time from trip construction.

I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.

Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?

Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".

Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:

If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.

Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*

I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.



*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year

Dirtdiver 06-13-2018 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 2613696)
I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.

Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?

Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".

Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:

If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.

Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*

I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.



*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year

Hypnotoad has a good letter over on CC, and I think someone was going to copy it to FB.

Theory is, had a lot to do with the 8 hours behind the door letter, not ready for prime time ARCOS, and unilaterally agreeing to SILs at 25 hours.

ERflyer 06-13-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2613485)
The test service that took 4 hours on a PDX flight was a new business service. Had nothing to do with coach. It was also a test to see how it worked. They are changing it.

The service was/is in coach. Hence the controversy. It’s called “Bold Hospitality” where each course is served individually and picked up individually each one step at a time. In coach. Takes 4 hours minimum.

It might be a “test” but they are pushing it to save money on trays. The VP of Inflight is going out to PDX this week to push it. It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

They will get whatever feedback they want and then continue to push it.

GogglesPisano 06-13-2018 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2613703)
The service was/is in coach. Hence the controversy. It’s called “Bold Hospitality” where each course is served individually and picked up individually each one step at a time. In coach. Takes 4 hours minimum.

It might be a “test” but they are pushing it to save money on trays. The VP of Inflight is going out to PDX this week to push it. It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

They will get whatever feedback they want and then continue to push it.

The senior mamas must love delaying their bunk time by an extra 3 hours.

GogglesPisano 06-13-2018 09:46 AM

C66 put out a comm. It mentioned communications put out by the Scheduling Committee regarding FAR 117, rest requirements, authorizing SIL's, ARCOS ...

JamesBond 06-13-2018 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

I know you don't want to hear/do this, but fill out an FCR. If we aren't willing to flood them with paperwork about this, it will never change.

Ball's in your court.

Hank Kingsley 06-13-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2613740)
I know you don't want to hear/do this, but fill out an FCR. If we aren't willing to flood them with paperwork about this, it will never change.

Ball's in your court.

IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

gloopy 06-13-2018 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

Not to mention in the AM how often do we start APU's to run 300-500 dollar an hour coffee makers 45 minutes before push? That's some insanely expensive java. While I clearly understand that a few of the power players want their cup right away, it seems like we could figure out other ways, especially while trying to be all "green" or whatever lol.

tomgoodman 06-13-2018 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2613703)
It is going to be retested in ATL in July by a handpicked group of flight attendants. (“Flight attendants who meet the criteria.”) They want to save money on trays so not sure what a retest will determine.

It will determine how well they can handpick flight attendants. :p

ERflyer 06-13-2018 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2613804)
It will determine how well they can handpick flight attendants. :p

Haha. So true. And that way they can always get the results they want. Not the results that accurately reflect what customers will receive on a typical flight.

snowdawg 06-13-2018 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2613744)
IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

They're to busy counting their bonuses.

Galaxydriver 06-13-2018 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 2613696)
I've been blissfully out of the ALPA bickering/BS loop for a long while now.



Can anyone fill me in on why Kessler was "fired"? Was it job performance*, or is this just more purging for purging's sake?



Why was a change needed on the committee? It sounds like the rest of the committee walked at the same time - which indicates to me that they disagreed with the "firing".



Miskell, for one, has been doing great work on the FB pages answering scheduling questions, and in the office. Was he part of the problem too? Or just disgusted with the petty union BS? :confused:



If there was a good reason, then cool, and let's hear it (preferably from our silent MEC admin - paging Bartells & Schnitzler). If not, we all just lost a lot via this committee-wide brain drain.



Keep our new "relationship" with the company in mind when your next scheduling issue spends a year waiting for a grievance hearing, instead of getting made right*



I really don't give a $hit who sits on what committee, but I do expect there to be some adult, rational reasons for why these decisions are being made. Militant reps, playing vindictive games, are not putting more money in our pockets.







*The scheduling committee has recovered ~$6M for the Delta pilots in the past year



So how much did we spend to recover that ~$6m? Seems like they are systematically shorting us and only pay up when caught and called on it. How about a grievance on pay to make them “fix” the system.


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forgot to bid 06-13-2018 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2613500)
I just don’t see why our flagship base can’t hook up the effing power and air. I go to a po-dunk out station or a turd of a place like EWR and I’ve got both in under 10 minutes. I go to ATL and I have to run the APU nonsrop to keep the cabin cool. I touch ATL 1-2 times/day and they will usually get around to power (significantly slower than many out stations) but air almost never happens. All this nickel and diming I’m reading about and meanwhile I’m dumping cash out the back end to run the AC.

I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

Baradium 06-13-2018 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2614003)
I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

Sometimes it's because the probe on the jetbridge isn't put through the door. If it's in the 60s outside the probe will call for heat and then the plane gets hot. Not all the bridges use the probe or even have one, but it'll cause weird temperature outputs.

80ktsClamp 06-14-2018 01:16 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2614003)
I usually turn off ground air about 30 min before departure on an A321 then I promptly freeze everyone out. But ground air runs temps in the cabin to above 80-85F in a heartbeat, APU keeps it at around 70F. So once it hits 76F, boom, it’s off. The A319/320 are a different story, they like the ground air. Ymmv is what I’m getting at.

That said, talk to the ALA and they may have a reason. I believe the city runs the jetway air system so sometimes they don’t have it set right and it runs hot on a hot day or cold on a cold day so the ramp crews don’t even hook it up. Or that used to be the case.

If it rains those hoses are very heavy and may not even be worth pulling out if the crew isn’t using it.

The guy that was the big deal for the jetway air in ATL is Piro. That’s his thing.... hit him hard! Agreed on the planes it works on... it just can’t keep up when a 321 starts loading on an 80ish day.

3 green 06-14-2018 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2613744)
IDK, they aka fltops has been writing this stuff for years. All they need to do is look out the window across the runway and see what's going on in Mecca. Should bring the Narita ground crews to Atlanta for a demo on how handle planes.

Not hooking the air and power up in a timely manner, or at all, started about the time Ed took over. It is obviously not a priority to him.


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