normally 24 hours before the trip or around 9 am the morning prior...sometimes a bit after 9 if they are busy.

Call your CP and have him buy the trip you want for a final flight. That way you will have some notice to set up,family and friends ect..

Sounds good thanks. If the CPO will do it.....

call CPO now. Normally they start processing at 0800 day prior.

yeah, what they all said.

Quick question for those having taken SYS ESV lately. Memory items are no longer on ESV but evaluated during Procedures MV, and all checkrides after that right?

Thx

They were not on eSV.....but that’s as far as I’ve gotten! I believe they are tested on 241.

Great thx for the info

it Seems I’m unsuccessful with the Success Factors App. Anybody have any luck with offline mode? I download the lessons, but when I watch them offline I can’t get more than about four “pages” in, then the loading prompt pops up and stays on. Dead in the water after that.

Just called DTW CPO. Not allowed.......

Disappointing for sure, but not totally unexpected. That whole early out program gives me the willies.

Well if Cares2 gets passed with another Payroll Protection caveat for airline employees, it makes a whole lot more sense. And it’s looking like that will happen.

Denny

FM would be an act of war. JL knows as much about his job as we do about being rocket surgeons. 😂

FM would be an act of war. JL knows as much about his job as we do about being rocket surgeons. 😂

Can you still jump seat if your NQ?

if your NQ what?

Currency has expired and “Not Qualified”, waiting for a sim for training. Just didn’t know if that effects your ability to jumpseat?

yes you can.

Eats, shoots, and leaves

Mil Leave on Reserve...
 

I know this has been answered in here somewhere in the past, but I'm no good at searching for old stuff on here...

If you pre-post mil leave, then bid reserve... I understand it counts against your days available and thus lowers your reserve guarantee. Once the bid awards are posted, can you then go back and move X days over your mil leave and get credit back up to the guarantee? I thought I remembered reading this but can't remember... and when i did, I wasn't bidding reserve. Thanks!

yes you can, if you are facebook, join the military affairs facebook page. this and other things are covered there.

I believe this is incorrect. Moving X days onto MLOA to turn them into MLOX only works for mil leave entered after the initial award... if I'm not mistaken.

After the initial award, one can move X days over MLOA only IF it complies with the grouping requirements. Thus, one needs to add them to existing blocks of on-call days or build a whole new block.


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looking for some help here.

I got a new iPhone (11 Pro) and am having issues getting MiCrew 4.4. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling the workspace app and logging into that app, but it took me to a username/password page and now I'm lost. Any ideas? Please and thank you!

Search DeltaNet for the new instructions to download the Hub app which replaced the WorkSpace app several months ago.

you are correct, i missed the pre-post part.

I like where your mind is on this. What you have to consider is that the company is locked into production balances with their JV parters too. We should increase Delta pilots' balance to the floor of the partnership agreements. This would align the scope and money, reinforcing compliance. The company is not going to negotiate outside the fences of their commercial agreements. They can agree to putting our fence right along their fenceline.

Force Majeure - beyond the company's control - is defined in the PWA and "pandemic" is not part of the defined term. The company would have to argue the contract means something that is explicitly not stated; or that events overwhelm the entire PWA. ... and if we are trying to toss the PWA, how about management just ajust the ALV and tell us to grieve it? I see scope as much more sancrosanct than ALV - on balance - a person's job v another person getting paid more to do absolutely nothing.

We, line pilots, need leverage on boths sides. For starters I suggest UNAs send Reps and Managers photos of their children. Humanize who is getting harmed.

I've asked my Reps to pull permits for informational picketing if the company pulls the trigger on furloughs. Looks pretty bad to be taking taxpayer money, furloughing pilots and sending revenue to Aeromexico.

Adults could sit down and see a solution by which the company doesn't furlough or displace in exchange for our forbearance on the mother of all scope grievances

Capt September schedules are out...

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The company is not going to negotiate outside the fences of their commercial agreements. They can agree to putting our fence right along their fenceline....[/QUOTE]

Given the bankruptcy status of multiple JV partners, one would think this would be a unique opportunity to negotiate the redrawing of the fence lines.

I've said it before but never underestimate the ability of the NMB mediator to find a circumstance over which the company does not have control. Pre 9/11 in C2K, the term terrorist act was not in the force majeure definition yet 1,300+ were furloughed over the course of nearly a year and a half past the event. Just because "pandemic" isn't in there doesn't mean the "neutral" won't deem COVID a circumstance over which the company does not have control.

Our current contract does list items covered by FM but includes the term “Includes but not limited to” as a preface. We will lose if we try and argue covid is not a FM event. I doubt the union would even argue it unless they just want to blow money.

So what you';re saying is that you agree with me that the company can pretty much do whatever they want WRT the contract. The end result is we end up in court. How that plays out depends. Same as it ever was. However, until such time that the case is ruled upon, the effect is still ongoing unless a prelim stay is invoked. Fun times coming for sure.

They're going to use FM. No doubt. JL didn't just let that one slip. They are going to stomp all over our contract and use it for catbox liner. China flu is their wet dream. The only hope we have is a non-biased mediator.

If our contract is that meaningless, why haven’t they lowered ALVs already?

My guess is because we are taking tax payer money. I still have a hard time believing FM would be an option after being floated for 6 months by our government.


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IDK, maybe because they are going to furlough instead?

Who's to say they are not planning on doing that regardless? You act as if they won't. Yes, they haven't done it yet.

Minor point, but it won’t be an NMB mediator who makes that call. It would be a neutral selected by ALPA and the company under 19.G.2.

I agree with your larger point, when there is a grey area neutrals usually side with the company. They also tend to respond to necessity of business arguments very favorably.

No I don’t agree with you. FM applies to specific items in the contract. Those items are almost all in section 1 and a small portion of section 21. FM can’t be used for anything else. Please get a copy of the contract. It can be downloaded from both the company and union.

You think management enjoyed the dream where revenue was decimated and billions in profits were turned into billions in losses but, omg, they were able to get concessions from the pilots? My guess is the “wet” part was tears.

There was much they could do along the way yet they rode the train.

they are not tied to the airline like we are. They can move on very easily and most likely will find a soft landing if the worse happens to the airline.

I don't shed a tear for them. Not one.

We'll see soon enough how they plan to gut the PWA forthwith. Lucky I VEOP on 1 Sept. You'll have to deal with the fallout and the absolute decimation of your QOL.

One more time, FM applies only to parts of section 1 and section 21. You can’t seem to grasp that small but critical item in claiming management plans to rip the contract up and if you believe your own statement you would never take the VEOP because it would be the very first thing management would dump via FM.

I didn’t say you shed a tear for them. I don’t either. You’re correct they don’t have the same tie we have to the company, although I would like to think their success or failure would affect their future job prospects. Easy to not sweat when you have made millions though.

My point was more along the lines of your contending the “China flu” was their wet dream because they can come after our contract. I doubt that is such a wonderful situation for them.

Enjoy your retirement. I’m sure I’ll manage through the decimation of my QOL. It’s all down hill from here in the short term. Paid to stay home beats either option the UNAs are facing come 10/1 but I’m hoping to reduce the uncertainty in life by returning to a flying category.