Just a guess: 767/757 OE planner? :mad:

Hopefully common sense will prevail at the fleet captain level or CPO level. I'm sure one of them will do the right thing. Also-- can one even use an APD on OE?

But if his options boil down to missing her graduation and sicking out, it's a no-brainer, right? :confused:

That would be putting a face to a name to a position, which I will refrain from doing so on a public webboard. DFW refugee, I will pm you that info.

I don't think a NH has accrued an APD yet.

didn't think P3FLTENG was a NH.

If you're not sick, then yes. It's a no-brainer...... It's sick time, not personal time.

P3, I hope it works out for you, bro. Next time you have a long layover in ATL, I still owe you a beer.

Kinda. If you tube the HR interview badly enough you might be done, but one guy in my group was told he was very close to the cut line (score?) on the HR and they told him to call back in a year. He'll get put back into the queue, doesn't have to do the computer testing again, but still will have to do the MMPI and psych interview, since he didn't get that far.

Gotta be the same guy.

I wouldn't pee in that man's ear if his brains were on fire. He screwed me over twice.

If he is the same guy from 2008 then expect a very poor experience and horrible communication.

Talking to my TOE LCA they were doing payback on the guy for stuff he had done to them. Not healthy.

I can't speak to the 76 guy but the 73 LOE person has been there forever.

The 717 OE planner was very good IMHO.

That guy is just awful. The lady that did the 767 domestic OE planning was absolutely amazing on the other hand. I can't believe she didn't get the overall gig over him when the categories were combined.

Flying with a LCA
 

Guys,

I have a flight with a LCA this month. Originally I was going to use PB Days to drop it with pay, but then I thought I might get lucky and be bumped for an IOE.

Its kind of moot now - reserve coverage went negative for those days and so I used my PB days to drop a different trip.

I am curious about there being any way to know ahead of time if an IOE is being planned or scheduled? I think I will get a call the night before the trip if I get bumped, but are there perhaps any telltale notes on the rotation that might be revealing?

Thanks Scoop

Just call the guy and ask him.

If you see L next to the flight # on your rotation.

I dealt with her when he dropped the ball and was out of office. It was completely different and confusing in a good way. Thankfully she fixed his mess.

I want to say, and it's been six years now, but the LCA was calling in sick at the last moment to pay him back for something he had done.

Like I said it wasn't healthy and honestly I can understand why guys would've been mad. Me and my buddy were waiting for TOE and decided to go down to his cubicle together and it was nasty and unacceptable interaction on his part but as new hires we just had to take it.

Isn't his nickname "black cloud" or something like that. I've dealt with him and it was horrendous... Not what I expect out of Delta.

Where in the PWA does it say scheduling can " add any crap they want to your schedule any time they want" on a spill trip!

I can understand within the same days as you were scheduled to fly but why more days? I have a trip that ended at 1000 on July 3rd, why does the union think it's a good idea or even ok to add flying till 1pm on July 4th.

So if you want July 4 off why should you have to bid no flying 4 days prior to that day just so u don't get screwed because we gave up July as a 31 day month in the last contract.

Do you pass through base at all? If so, I'd be ****ed.

3 honest questions here.

1. Why don't we have personal time? The once a year unpaid APD is not personal time.

2. When in section 6 what is the "value" placed on the sick program?

3. If we were to say all sick time is unpaid would that "value" be put into hourly rates?

AFAIK that is either a very, very new thing or an incredibly, almost unheard of, extremely rare, hardly ever seen thing.

Either way I don't think very many can expect that.

You had a stuck mic for part of that.

I'd prefer a single bank system that offered more flexibility, provided the accrual rate was acceptable.

Yet for some reason, we collectively love a lot of extremely low value vacation days, a use it or lose it sick system that does a good job covering those who are sick but rewards abusers and punishes the honest and everything else unpaid.

I'd like to see significantly more value per vacation day and some sort of personal day pay or unused sick time rebate, etc. Doubt it'll ever happen though. We'll get a 6th week full of 3 hour days before we ever get anything resembling a reform of the current system.

+1 .................................

Also, sometimes 3 or 4 days out IcrewMax (on your smart phone) will show several pilots instead of just you and him. On my last checkride, I saw a 3rd dude listed that I looked up and saw was a LCA. Called the Capt and gave him a head's up 3 days prior, sure enough dude showed up at gate and gave a checkride.

LOL... sorry man, that's a laugh of commiseration... I found out myself few months ago why no one bids carryout trips. Yes, they can totally hose you. I think they can add a whole day. ABSOLUTELY if the end of the trip is early or good, they will tag on a turn or something. Now I have "avoid carryout trips" pretty high up on my bid. If I want something, I by-name it and ensure that if they add one day I can either dump the trip (not touching a weekend), or it's already a 4 day with sufficient flying on last day to not tweak.

Just about everything you type, I find I am in 100% agreement with. Sometimes when I have the page slid over on my phone, so I can see the text column but not who posted it, I will read your post and think, "I can't remember posting that, or using so many great adjectives... I must have had several good beers...man am I witty."

Bidpacks not visible in DeltaNet, but downloadable via PBS desktop doofer.

New long layover in DTW. I liked the last one, big hotel with lots to do in it... which was good as you didn't really want to go outside much. Weird, I read all sorts of new hotels in the recent memos, but they were all for places I don't go overseas... they neglected to mention DTW.

It isn't the Crowne Plaza is it?

The van driver 3 weeks ago pointed it out stating that we were gonna move there he suspected.

Exterior looked straight out of 1978. Several blocks away along the river. Not anywhere I'd be walking around much.

yep. someone will be along shortly telling you what a total security violation it is posting our layover hotel. As if anyone couldn't just stand at any airport curb for 15 min to identify what shuttle/bus took us to about 75% of our hotels. When the van driver in some foreign country, driving an unmarked beat-up van, wearing dreadlocks, sandals, and a wife-beater T-shirt, has to show us an actual ID before we jump in the van with him to go who knows where... THEN I will consider not laughing when someone seriously proposes this as a security risk.
You may not want to get all those PMs though.

Technically, I did not knowingly post the name as I have only hearsay knowledge ;).

However, if a mod would like to censor the name, go ahead. Can't edit it now. No prompt for it.

Try taking the Tunnel Bus over to Windsor....fun day

I don't think the "union" thinks it is a good idea. The company has had that flexibility as long as I have been here. C2012 actually made it more restrictive for the first time.

It used to be they could add as many days as they wanted. Contract 2012 limited it to one day. Having said that I have never had a rotation extended into another day so it's a rare event. I have had them shortened often.

Anyone know if you change categories do you get to keep your vacation?

The fleet captains have nothing to do with OE. You need to talk to the CLCP.

Well the union must think it's good if still allow a trip to be extended...

I think anything inside you trip calender day foot print should be fair game on a spill trip, but not additional days beyond.

Question still begs... Where is it in the PWA?

Shortened yes never extended until it got extended into the f@@k'n 4th of July.

PS if July was still a 31 day month you or this wouldn't happen. You could still work the 30 & 1 with out this happening.

Call the CLCP for your category. The scheduler works with and for the CLCP. If you get no help (unlikely) then call Ed S. Missing a graduation for an OE is stupid. The planner can swap a couple of pilots around with minimal fuss.

After it's been fixed at a lower level, send an email detailing the scheduler's intransigence to Ed S. The scheduler needs a little more light to shine on his cubicle.