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Old 10-06-2010 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Just heard yesterday, and maybe I'm behind and probably am, that HA is getting 330's delivered. True?
Not only that they have ordered the A350...

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Old 10-06-2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Not only that they have ordered the A350...

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Thought the 330s were temp until the 350s come.
Old 10-06-2010 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Thought the 330s were temp until the 350s come.
If you consider 5-6 years "temporary" yes...

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Old 10-06-2010 | 05:26 PM
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With AA & UA/CO receiving ATI with their Japanese partners you now know the reason we got 2 HND slots!
Old 10-06-2010 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
George;
I too hope that we see the 748i here, and I do beleive that this is very possible.

Heck I even have an artist rendition of it in DAL colors I got from a Boeing buddy, but that does not mean that Skyteam may put the 748i at a carrier like AF and keep us doing point to point on smaller jets.

Heck, I have a set of 787 cockpit graphics that I got from a buddy in the training dept. They've not been any help getting the a/c on the property.
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Heyas,

I hope something is in the works...

The new UAL/CAL WB fleet:

B747-400: 24
B777-200: 74
B767(all) : 61

Not to mention 170+ 757s & 737-900s

THAT is a bunch of heavy lift.

Maybe we can steal Avis' old tagline "we're #2, we try harder"...

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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,

I hope something is in the works...

The new UAL/CAL WB fleet:

B747-400: 24
B777-200: 74
B767(all) : 61

Not to mention 170+ 757s & 737-900s

THAT is a bunch of heavy lift.

Maybe we can steal Avis' old tagline "we're #2, we try harder"...

Nu
Which may be the reason for the 764 rumors. Boeing made a whopping 37 767-400s, 16 went to CAL and 21 to DAL. Maybe CAL doesn't need the 16 anymore and while you might not want to sell them to DAL at least DAL would probably buy your entire small fleet and outside of JFK/EWR you know DAL 764s won't be coming back in with a foreign carrier to compete against you in your hubs.

And you just raised their debt and if you don't sell them now DAL might run off and secure other aircraft and not have room for a fleet you're no longer interested in.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,

I hope something is in the works...

The new UAL/CAL WB fleet:

B747-400: 24
B777-200: 74
B767(all) : 61

Not to mention 170+ 757s & 737-900s

THAT is a bunch of heavy lift.

Nu
I remember Jim Whitehurst saying before he left Delta that if anyone at United ever actually ran that airline, that Delta would have a tough time competing with all the widebodies and route autorities they have. Add CAL into the mix with EWR Atlantic traffic, IAH SA traffic, and their 777's and 767's and I think we will have a very feirce competitor.

That being said, I don't think that having more aircraft and routes is gonna do alot of good. If we want to beat the new UAL and SWA, we need the best frontline employees of any airline. Spending 2 Billion on interiors, intertainment, and seats is a good move, now we just need to figure out how to get the public to think that DAL FA's and agents are nicer than those at SWA. Not sure how we're are gonna pull that one off.
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I remember Jim Whitehurst saying before he left Delta that if anyone at United ever actually ran that airline, that Delta would have a tough time competing with all the widebodies and route autorities they have. Add CAL into the mix with EWR Atlantic traffic, IAH SA traffic, and their 777's and 767's and I think we will have a very fierce competitor.
I don't mind have a rational competitor - it's the stupid ones that kill us. A rational competitor won't dump seats at low prices, because they understand that hurts both airlines.

Originally Posted by RockyBoy
If we want to beat the new UAL and SWA, we need the best frontline employees of any airline. Spending 2 Billion on interiors, intertainment, and seats is a good move, now we just need to figure out how to get the public to think that DAL FA's and agents are nicer than those at SWA. Not sure how we're are gonna pull that one off.
It's going be be pretty hard - SWA treated me and my family really nicely when I used a Zed fare on them over the summer. I see why people like them.
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