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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 899711)
I agree with that but is it really $50 per crew member? For one TSA employee sitting in front of a laptop? How much does that frikkin laptop cost?:rolleyes:
When I went through at BWI they had three guys at the computer, maybe they were training, but I don't think so. You know we need more government jobs to get this economy rolling.:D |
Can The airlines write off the expense if they paid for it?
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Plus we all know good and well that the tsa isn't understaffed by any stretch of the imagination so why not use current gubment TSA resources to man the crewpass desk?
AND since when has the gubment cared about costs anyway? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Amish Pilot
(Post 899719)
When I went through at BWI they had three guys at the computer, maybe they were training, but I don't think so. You know we need more government jobs to get this economy rolling.:D
No? Why don't you step through this AIT scanner and we'll tell you. :D |
Originally Posted by reddog25
(Post 899458)
Why do you need a 3rd pilot? Is it more than 8 hours? Doubt it.
Scoop :) |
The way that Crewpass will be set up, there is more to the cost than the TSA agent checking everything at security. The 50 bucks per pilot has more to do with the security of the program and database costs.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 899681)
Looks like ALPA was doing their work yet again in the background before they came out with rhetoric. Now that they have laid the ground work, and built a consensus among the ALPA member airlines, they are now addressing what they have been doing about it, and where it will go from here.
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Originally Posted by reddog25
(Post 899458)
Why do you need a 3rd pilot? Is it more than 8 hours? Doubt it.
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I don't know why any pilots are volunteering money to pay for CrewPass.
It will end up being in each airlines best interest to pay the CrewPass fee and write it off as an expense. Pilots, in general have a pretty low BS tolerance level. As more and more pilots "opt-out" of the machine scan, the TSA pat down lines will get longer and longer and soon will start affecting the D-0 performance. Like most things, airline managements react quicker to things that cost them lots of money or might cost them money (potential upcoming legislation), than things that are conveniences. This issue is scaling exponentially due in large part to online media sites like The Drudge Report. It will reach critical mass sooner rather than later and will start costing the airlines money and what little good will is left from their paying customers. It's one thing for a passenger to miss a flight because it took them forever to get through the security back log. It is quite another when entire flights or maybe every flight at a major airport is late because the crews are stuck in the backlog of security caused by crew AND passengers choosing to opt out. At that point the $50 per crewmember will look realllllyy cheap. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 899681)
Looks like ALPA was doing their work yet again in the background before they came out with rhetoric. Now that they have laid the ground work, and built a consensus among the ALPA member airlines, they are now addressing what they have been doing about it, and where it will go from here.
BTW, has USAPA or APA actually done anything about this other than beat their chests with a big pronouncement? Easy to yell and scream. It's harder to effect change. As usual, ALPA will ultimately be the hammer to find a solution to this. |
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