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No they can pay their own $50 or OPT OUT! I understand what you are saying, but I want to get crew pass up and running. Not at just the three airports in the test program. I already know your next question, what are we willing to give up, I don't know maybe scope.....:eek:

Just kidding.:D

That is not a option. If TSA mans a crew pass point they want all crewmembers going through that point. We get everyone onboard. They are not going to set up hundreds of checkpoints just for Delta or ALPA pilots.

finis72

11-11-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 899736)

You really need to get up off your knees. You sound like LM at a birthday party. ALPA's response to this farce is limp at best.

Orvil, crawl out from under your rock and take a look at the real world.

BlaineFaban

11-11-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 899742)

Come on acl. This is a webboard. We MUCH prefer RHETORIC over RESULTS.

BTW, has USAPA or APA actually done anything about this other than beat their chests with a big pronouncement? Easy to yell and scream. It's harder to effect change. As usual, ALPA will ultimately be the hammer to find a solution to this.

All that is going on is not reflected in the letter either. PLenty more is happening, again out of the limelight. Hopefully, there will b breakthrough in the near future.

hockeypilot44

11-11-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 899736)

You really need to get up off your knees. You sound like LM at a birthday party. ALPA's response to this farce is limp at best.

This made me laugh. You shouldn't attack ACL though. He means well. I wish ALPA would put out a harsh public message like the other unions. We need public support to get this changed.

Hawaii50

11-11-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 899658)

Thanks USAPA. Another example of independent unions being in touch with its members and ALPA being out to lunch. Good thing the guys at DPA have given us a choice.

In touch with their members? USAPA? An association formed specifically to screw over half a pilot group? That's some funny stuff.

buzzpat

11-11-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 899719)

Buzz,

When I went through at BWI they had three guys at the computer, maybe they were training, but I don't think so. You know we need more government jobs to get this economy rolling.:D

The times I've gone through BWI it's been one dude, a laptop and a link to CASS. I even peered over his shoulder once just to see how absolutely effortless it is. It's s no brainer.

PilotFrog

11-11-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 899737)

Because it is a backside of the clock flight into the mountains.. and I mean REAL mountains..... FE is 8400'.. ITCZ... and you have been up all night besides. It is a good thing that the company has done that with the 757, and I certainly hope they do it with the 737.

Well I found out that the flight will be the "afternoon" flight and although it arrives at 10 pm won't be considered a late flight and therefore only need 2 pilots. I know how mountonous it is, I bid it every chance I could.

Pineapple Guy

11-11-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 899748)

I wish ALPA would put out a harsh public message like the other unions. We need public support to get this changed.

Would you rather them put out a harsh public message, or work behind the scenes to resolve the issue?

As sailingfun stated so eloquently, its kind of hard to work out a compromise solution behind the scenes AFTER you punch your opponent in the face in public.

PilotFrog

11-11-2010 02:17 PM

How come we don't get someone like Zappos.com to provide the money. Get some corporation to get a little advertisement as each pilot and FA goes through. Get the computers and database server hosting by Apple and as each pilot and FA goes through you can have a loudspeaker or flashing billboard say "SAFE Flying, Brought to you by the iPAD"

newKnow

11-11-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 899758)

Let me fix your post to my liking......

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Would you rather them put out a harsh public message, and work behind the scenes to resolve the issue?

Answer: YES.

Let me disagree with you and sailing here....

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As sailingfun stated so eloquently, its kind of hard to work out a compromise solution behind the scenes AFTER you punch your opponent in the face in public.

Why does a harsh, responsive message have to be viewed as a public punch in the face? Surely, with the amount of talent we have, we can craft a message that gets our point across without hurting the other party's feelings. Hell, maybe it will even teach the powers that be to think before the legislate the next time.

Sometimes you have to let out a bark to let people know there is a dog in the yard..... ;)

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