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01-31-2011 | 09:39 AM

#58391

buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by dragon

Does that mean you'll be a Vikings fan???

There's only one frozen tundra....that would be Lambeau Field, future home of the Lombardi Trophy!

01-31-2011 | 10:01 AM

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NWA320pilot

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What is ones obligation if they are removed from a trip for OE?

Thanks

01-31-2011 | 10:02 AM

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ANC can be a more moderate climate than MSP during the winter! Brrrrrr I hate preflights there.

I know, that is why I live up there, was just poking fun at the tundra stuff. am still pi$$ed they closed ANC, seemed like a real stupid thing to do.

01-31-2011 | 10:14 AM

#58394

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by satchip

Oh man, I got hosed. I think 7 dudes came in on top of me.

What kind of house of horrors are they running up there???

Congrats on finishing 73 training btw.

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I know, that is why I live up there, was just poking fun at the tundra stuff. am still pi$$ed they closed ANC, seemed like a real stupid thing to do.

01-31-2011 | 10:50 AM

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From: B757/767

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

What is ones obligation if they are removed from a trip for OE?

Thanks

Review Sec 23.G. Basically they have until 12 hours prior to your original report time to put another trip on your schedule. You get assigned open time BEFORE reserves. A new trip can't start before your original report, but it can finish later. There's more to it, but I don't want to give bad info.

01-31-2011 | 10:53 AM

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Review Sec 23.G. Basically they have until 12 hours prior to your original report time to put another trip on your schedule. You get assigned open time BEFORE reserves. There's more to it, but I don't want to give bad info.

I read all of that but I am not an attorney so it was clear as mud....

Thanks though!

01-31-2011 | 10:55 AM

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From: Light Chop

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

What is ones obligation if they are removed from a trip for OE?

Thanks

from one of the TWG NOTEPAD:

Regular First Officers Removed for OE
If a regular First Officer is removed from his entire rotation for another pilot’s OE, he will be
subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G.5.a.
1. The Company must attempt to notify him of his recovery flying at least 12 hours prior to
his original report. If he has not been assigned recovery flying by that time, he has no
further recovery obligation.
2. He can be assigned a single rotation that reports on any day of the original rotation but
NET his original report, and releases NLT four hours after his original release or the
same calendar day, whichever is later.
a. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made within 24 hours of his original
report and the recovery flying reports on the same day as the originally scheduled
rotation, he will only be assigned recovery flying under Section 23 N.3. (after white
slips).
b. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made more than 24 hours prior to his
original report, or the recovery flying reports after A day of the original rotation, he
will be assigned recovery flying prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N.1.
3. If he is removed from all or part of his recovery rotation, he cannot be assigned additional
recovery flying.
4. If he has not acknowledged his recovery flying three hours prior to his original report, the
recovery flying may be removed, and he will be subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K.1.
(Refer to “Regular Pilots Removed for IROPS” above). In this case the pilot is
required to be promptly available at his base at the originally scheduled report time. He
may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT four hours after his original
release or the same calendar day, whichever is later (domestic). An international
category pilot may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT 30 hours after
his original release, provided the last duty period of the recovery flying contains an ocean
crossing.

01-31-2011 | 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

I read all of that but I am not an attorney so it was clear as mud....

Thanks though!

Lol. I hear ya. I'm a 320 FO so basically when it happens to me is I end up with a crummy open time trip nobody wants. I think for you if there is no open time you show up to DTW, wait 12 hours and get released, then go home & enjoy paid time off.