Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
#5871
I worked for the airlines where line, seniority list pilots were instructing in the training centers. It took a lot of connections to get there. Most of them were burned out, with high flying egos and often unconstructively rude and intimidating, especially towards the new hires.
I think I just worked for crappy companies.
I love DGS guys at Delta. Training is absolutely awesome experience.
The egos are in check, they have seen it all, happy to be there and they do a good job especially if they can work only 10 sessions a month.
BUT I do agree with protecting the seniority list jobs idea.
Active pilots should teach, but maybe ... part time? Stay away from overworking. The box and golden handcuffs could do bad things to you.
I think I just worked for crappy companies.
I love DGS guys at Delta. Training is absolutely awesome experience.
The egos are in check, they have seen it all, happy to be there and they do a good job especially if they can work only 10 sessions a month.
BUT I do agree with protecting the seniority list jobs idea.
Active pilots should teach, but maybe ... part time? Stay away from overworking. The box and golden handcuffs could do bad things to you.
#5872
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
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Delta is not really insourcing the ramp jobs. They have set up companies like DSS and DGS. Delta staffing services and Delta Global Services. The ramp employees don't work for Delta they work for DSS. The pay and benefits are often less then the employees were getting they are replacing. When you deal with ground workers you often assume they are Delta. Most of the time they are not. They belong to DSS or DGS and don't make near as much as Delta employees did on the same jobs. The fact Delta was non union allowed them to pull this off. It started in the mid nineties. Big cost savings to the company and they keep some control over the quality. Thousands of loyal Delta employees however lost their jobs in the transition. I am sure they would love to do the same thing with pilot jobs!
#5874
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Trying to remember "Thrust Normal", "Checks", and something else besides "How are the rides today?"
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I truly hope that you aren't referring to DL as the Titanic by extension, through your somewhat spurious analogy.
When the going gets tough, and times get rough, people become more competitive and have a greater incentive to put out their "A-game" to distinguish themselves. Don't believe it? Look at old pictures of people who were out of work during the Great Depression. What were they dressed in? By and large, we find them dressed to the nines, even to stand in a bread line. It has everything to do with respect for others and yourself. And it shouldn't have anything to do with matters of pay, pension losses, and declining quality of life. After all, who are you getting back at by leaving off the hat? It ultimately comes back to you.
Now I truly hope that you take the points I make at face value, and that they are not specifically targeted towards anybody. You have everything to gain by maintaining the appearance of the consummate professional pilot, no matter what. It is good. And good goes around
When the going gets tough, and times get rough, people become more competitive and have a greater incentive to put out their "A-game" to distinguish themselves. Don't believe it? Look at old pictures of people who were out of work during the Great Depression. What were they dressed in? By and large, we find them dressed to the nines, even to stand in a bread line. It has everything to do with respect for others and yourself. And it shouldn't have anything to do with matters of pay, pension losses, and declining quality of life. After all, who are you getting back at by leaving off the hat? It ultimately comes back to you.
Now I truly hope that you take the points I make at face value, and that they are not specifically targeted towards anybody. You have everything to gain by maintaining the appearance of the consummate professional pilot, no matter what. It is good. And good goes around
Who the heck let Dickson find out about this place? Dang, Now we all have to change the secret code word and password for club access.
#5875
Keep hearing WE want to combine the best of both airlines, and will pick the best of either system. After careful deliberation we decided the best way is the.....DAL way. Thanks for your input
#5876
The topic was brought up by someone else and I wanted to put in my two cents. There is a lot to talk about but I don't want to discuss them on a public forum. I mostly prefer to read.
Last edited by FlyDL; 03-27-2009 at 03:55 PM.
#5877
Anyway, welcome aboard new guy. Sorry if I was ahhhhhh short. It is a great layover in HNL and I was guilty of PWD.
See ya around the board hat boy <--------see you really are one of the guys now.
Ferd
#5878
Hey guys and girls,
I think someone covered this on an earlier post but I couldn't find it. How can I access other carriers zed fares on the DeltaNet? I looked. I know there's a link somewhere but I just came off a red eye and I'm zonked.
Thanks,
Buzz
I think someone covered this on an earlier post but I couldn't find it. How can I access other carriers zed fares on the DeltaNet? I looked. I know there's a link somewhere but I just came off a red eye and I'm zonked.
Thanks,
Buzz
#5879
Go up to the search function on the right side of DALnet. Type in Zed fares. About 30 articles come up. Look at the first and second ones. The others are from 2006.We have added a lot of OAL's since then.
FWIW you need to buy the tickets at the ticket counter at the airport. The agents are normally not to happy about that.
FWIW you need to buy the tickets at the ticket counter at the airport. The agents are normally not to happy about that.
#5880
Also, take the ZED ticket guide for agents with you. You can get it from the travel net page, News & Info page. On the right side of the webpage under INTERLINE TRAVEL, click the ZED Tickets link. There you will find the ZED Ticketing Guide For Agents. Print it up and take it with you, so you have something to give them when they say they don't know how to do it.
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