Welcome back, Mr. Van Winkle. You've missed a lot while you were asleep.

Add the courts, FAA, NTSB, Congress to your list, and you'll START to see the scope of the problem.

But you've made a forum focused effort to blame ALPA for all that's wrong. If the court jacks us in Chapter 11...ALPA screwed it up. If the NTSB overreacts to a pilot mistake...ALPA failed those guys! If ALPA prevents "baseball arbitration" and other efforts to make it harder for us...ALPA is wasting our money on regionals pilots!

Thank goodness CAPA has our back!

Carl has a point - ALPA does point to all it's connections in Washington and ability to get stuff done there, but when the rubber meets the road, nothing happens. ALPA does get into the Congressman and Senator's office and speaks their mind, but it's not a strong voice and does a poor job of implementing change that is good for it's members.

PRIME example - I did a quick search of my email in-box, in the last month I have 4 emails/press releases from ALPA talking about Hand-held lasers and making it a federal crime. I think that's an issue that most of us honestly don't care about.

The last email I have from ALPA mentioning Crewpass was TWO MONTHS ago. I think almost ALL pilots would prefer efforts to be made on Crewpass rather than Lasers.

Gosh, I forgot about that! We're already all the way back to our pre-bankruptcy pay rates!!! Moak said it in his last letter as MEC King. Life is good... happy times are here again!!! Party's at my house! :D

Oh..... about those rates we're back to. They're the rates after we took a 32.5% pay cut?! And our current rates are basically just the bankruptcy/emergency rates adjusted for inflation? Well then never mind. My bad.

(But we have gotten a few token pay and contract increases while the "vocal" APA has gotten nothing. We got that going for us!) :rolleyes:

We're lucky Carl's figured it out! It's the NMB, in the parlor, with a knife.

All that money Carl has sent to ALPA-PAC, and all those letters he's written to support ALPA's efforts - wasted.

Oh, wait....

Call President Bates at APA. Tell him how bad it's been for you.

If they believe that, then a law removing the right to strike will pass the Congress. If that was the case, most businesses would be lining up to bring such legislation before the Congress. That hasn't happened. I believe it's because most Americans do not want the right to strike removed.

Carl

Not a single word of what you've posted describes what I believe. Not that it matters to you.

Carl

Then I've gotta tell you, you have managed to disguise your "true feelings" very well with your incessant ALPA-bashing rhetoric.

Keep up the hidden work on behalf of all Delta pilots, and the (get it right this time!), entire profession.

I suspect "President Bates" recognizes just how bad it's been for ALL of us. Sounds like you may have forgotten, though.

While I disagree with your assertion, I would suggest that if you feel ALPA needs a stronger voice in Washington, you may want to take some action to make it a stronger voice. Join ALPA-PAC and encourage others to do the same.

Or maybe just respond to the many "Call to Action" requests made and take a couple of minutes of your time to right your Congressman and Senators. Important legislation is pending.


Call to Action: Support One Level of Safety – Oppose the Inhofe FT/DT Carve Out Amendment
February 7, 2011 - An amendment to the FAA bill is pending on the Senate floor right now. This amendment, sponsored by Senators James Inhofe (R-OK) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), would exempt some all-cargo and charter air carriers from the pending flight and duty time rules. ALPA has been pushing for updated, science-based fatigue rules for decades. With a final rule within sight, pilots are urged to contact their U.S. Senators to enlist their support to defeat the Inhofe amendment which would allow subpart-S carriers operate under a separate set of fatigue rules.