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beer 01-12-2010 01:15 PM

I meant Glenn Beck

GBU-24 01-12-2010 01:17 PM

ACL you may have already posted this...but...

I talked / bugged Crew Resources this afternoon...expect training doc/letter/order for the 1 Jan bid...what ever you want to call, will be out this Friday.

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by GBU-24 (Post 742826)
ACL you may have already posted this...but...

I talked / bugged Crew Resources this afternoon...expect training doc/letter/order for the 1 Jan bid...what ever you want to call, will be out this Friday.

That is what the are saying......

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 742824)
I meant Glenn Beck

Nope, I got Sponge Bob on!

StormChaser 01-12-2010 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 742813)
If you need I can download the old Nwa manuals and email the to you.

Thanks for the offer. I actually still have the old NWA hardcopy manuals from before I was displaced off the 320, and I've downloaded all the new Delta-version manuals. It's just a pain to have to try and review all the manuals off my laptop.

GBU-24 01-12-2010 01:27 PM

Former NWA guys...how long is the 320 school? What is the basic flow of training?

beer 01-12-2010 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742830)
Nope, I got Sponge Bob on!

Sorry..but no sponge bob here...we watch overhaulin!!!

Superpilot92 01-12-2010 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 742835)
Sorry..but no sponge bob here...we watch overhaulin!!!

my oldest (almost 5 and he loves it) and i watch overhaulin almost on a daily basis ;)

buzzpat 01-12-2010 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742830)
Nope, I got Sponge Bob on!

I've got Beck and Sponge Bob on. C'mon boys, multi task!

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 01:52 PM

I have Sponge Bob on two T.V's

Beck is getting DVRed. ;)

johnso29 01-12-2010 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 742812)
i got a decent vacation award but its pointless because I'm switching planes and thus will lose what i was awarded.....:cool:


I think we bid for what we could hold on the 320 so we will keep it.

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 742858)
I think we bid for what we could hold on the 320.

Yep, it will suck too!

johnso29 01-12-2010 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by GBU-24 (Post 742834)
Former NWA guys...how long is the 320 school? What is the basic flow of training?

5 days of systems, 4 or so procedures trainers, & I think it was 5 or 6 sims. It's been over a year since I've done it so I am probably wrong. Basically it was Monday through Friday, and I started October 15th and was on the line November 22nd. So including OE(a 26 hour 5 day) it was a little over a month long.

I imagine it's close to the same now, but I'm not sure. I'm getting the short requal which is only 6 days! :eek:

johnso29 01-12-2010 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742859)
Yep, it will suck too!


It does. But I'm in the bottom 1% of EVERYTHING, & it's the airplane I want so it's no biggie. ;) :)

capncrunch 01-12-2010 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by beer (Post 742818)
Is anyone watching Glenn Beck!!!

Really? Glen Beck. A kernal of corn in my waste has more to offer. That same kernal has a lenghthier resume in politics than Glen. His experience is spinn

hockeypilot44 01-12-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 742867)
It does. But I'm in the bottom 1% of EVERYTHING, & it's the airplane I want so it's no biggie. ;) :)

I know. What gives? I've been here over two years already and am still a reserve F/O. I was a jet captain at a regional in about a year and a half. I'm ready for Airbus captain already. (joke) This seniority stuff takes a lot of time to get at the majors. Can we speed up the process?

pilotc90a 01-12-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by GBU-24 (Post 742834)
Former NWA guys...how long is the 320 school? What is the basic flow of training?

the basics are 5 days of classrooms/with some fixed based systems instruction. SV on day 5. week two is procedures training followed by a PV, week three simulators culminating with the MV, week four it all L-prep to finish off with the LOE/spots.

Clear as mud? PM if you need anymore specific advice.

johnso29 01-12-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 742872)
I know. What gives? I've been here over two years already and am still a reserve F/O. I was a jet captain at a regional in about a year and a half. I'm ready for Airbus captain already. (joke) This seniority stuff takes a lot of time to get at the majors. Can we speed up the process?

Oh there are ways.......but I don't recommend them if you want to stay out of jail. ;) :p

exeagle 01-12-2010 02:26 PM

Anyone get a chance to "chat" with Richard today? Any new info from that discussion?

buzzpat 01-12-2010 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 742869)
Really? Glen Beck. A kernal of corn in my waste has more to offer. That same kernal has a lenghthier resume in politics than Glen. His experience is spinn

Capn, I guess you watch MSNBC? Different strokes for different folks.:rolleyes:

Scoop 01-12-2010 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 742612)

Now if they could just do something about the recirc fan that sounds like a hurricane.

CE,

If you are sitting at the gate with the APU air on, just turn off the left pack. This will lower the noise level from a CAT IV hurricane to merely that of a tropical storm. This works good during briefings and checklist reading. Obviously you have to weigh the cost of shutting off a pack but the amount of the noise reduction is amazing and unless its really hot, is probably worth it. You can also set up for single right pack when taxiing in.

Scoop

n9810f 01-12-2010 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 742231)
Heyas,

I'd rather see us get the ATA 757-300 birds...which I'm not even sure if they're available anymore.

Nu

Continental is in the process of taking the remaining (4) ATA 757-300's parked at Victorville for nearly two years. One is already in the fleet equipped with winglets...the other three join this year. When all is said and done, CO will be flying all 12 former ATA 757-300ET's. Worked out well for CO - same Rolls engine & minimal conversions needed to conform to CO.

Scoop 01-12-2010 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742734)
Sounds good.
Know a bunch of the 73N INS's. Great ppl.

Was basically told it is half the airplane the 757 is.

I am not picky, I am sure it will be a blast

ACL,

Some stuff is actually better in the 737 - like the displays and the dual GPS LNAV capability. Not to mention that the left seater can easily, and I do mean easily, hand-fly a single engine CAT III approach with the HUD, albeit down to a 50 DH vice an AH.
The problem with the VNAV in the 737 is that it is weighted far too heavily toward fuel savings (idle descents) to the point where it will often hold you up at altitude far too long and then immediately after starting down it will start wanking at you for drag - which is a drag (pun intended :)). I mean, really, if you are going to start asking for drag .00005 seconds after starting down why not just start down a little earlier. Starting down 15 miles prior to TD (via descend now) may help but it will eventually rejoin the "unrealistic" descent path and then start asking for drag again.
There are many techniques to get around this (increase tailwinds, Engine A/I on, etc) but these merely defeats the purpose of VNAV in the first place which is fuel savings. The VNAV is quirky but you will eventually achieve "Total VNAV conciousness" so you will have that going for you. :D
Trust me - after a few flights you will be much more bummed out about the inadequate cockpit confines then VNAV shortcomings. :eek:

Scoop

Denny Crane 01-12-2010 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 742858)
I think we bid for what we could hold on the 320 so we will keep it.

Johnso,

I think y'all are talking about what you got for a primary vacation bid and whether you will keep it.

If you are MD'd, which I don't think you or super are, you will keep your vacation. For AE/VD and I think for reinstatement (check with the union on this one), you bid your vacation based on the category you hold on 31 Jan 2010. If you convert on April 1 2010, you will rebid all your vacations at once. If you convert any month after this and have bid a week or whatever before you convert, you take your vacation and have fun!:)

It all depends on what category you hold on 31 jan and when you convert.

Denny

tsquare 01-12-2010 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742781)
Got ya!

In reality I will go from a mid level FO to a very senior CA in less than seven years.


Which seven years are those?

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 742904)
ACL,

Some stuff is actually better in the 737 - like the displays and the dual GPS LNAV capability. Not to mention that the left seater can easily, and I do mean easily, hand-fly a single engine CAT III approach with the HUD, albeit down to a 50 DH vice an AH.
The problem with the VNAV in the 737 is that it is weighted far too heavily toward fuel savings (idle descents) to the point where it will often hold you up at altitude far too long and then immediately after starting down it will start wanking at you for drag - which is a drag (pun intended ). I mean, really, if you are going to start asking for drag .00005 seconds after starting down why not just start down a little earlier. Starting down 15 miles prior to TD (via descend now) may help but it will eventually rejoin the "unrealistic" descent path and then start asking for drag again.
There are many techniques to get around this (increase tailwinds, Engine A/I on, etc) but these merely defeats the purpose of VNAV in the first place which is fuel savings. The VNAV is quirky but you will eventually achieve "Total VNAV conciousness" so you will have that going for you. :D
Trust me - after a few flights you will be much more bummed out about the inadequate cockpit confines then VNAV shortcomings. :eek:

Scoop


WOW, I cannot wait! :eek:

Denny Crane 01-12-2010 03:28 PM

My guess is 2022-2029?!

Denny

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 742917)
Which seven years are those?

2016/17 to 2024/25

tsquare 01-12-2010 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742921)
2016/17 to 2024/25

Yeah.. I thought it was down the road a piece.

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 03:35 PM

Sure as heck ain't for the next few years! Take another 12 to hit 50%.



Retirement by year at the combined DAL:

2009 7
2010 7
2011 9
2012 20
2013 120
2014 203
2015 273
2016 326
2017 379
2018 472
2019 560
2020 652
2021 831
2022 877
2023 832
2024 821
2025 732

2026 632
2027 530
2028 507
2029 506
2030 540
2031 473
2032 396
2033 318
2034 236
2035 173
2036 165
2037 132
2038 106
2039 87
2040 85
2041 71
2042 66
2043 48
2044 31
2045 27
2046 10
2047 4
2048 1

Denny Crane 01-12-2010 03:38 PM

ACL, I'm curious what your definition of "very senior" is? Top 20/25%?

Denny

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 03:43 PM

Well I retire #19.

Very senior is a matter of perspective. (More senior than I am now :eek: )

tsquare 01-12-2010 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 742928)
ACL, I'm curious what your definition of "very senior" is? Top 20/25%?

Denny

I think his definition is a lot more liberal than mine since I am senior to him (I am pretty sure), and those numbers don't make ME very senior... and I retire at the end of that period. (If I stay around that long)

Denny Crane 01-12-2010 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 742930)
Well I retire #19.

Very senior is a matter of perspective. (More senior than I am now :eek: )

No truer words were ever spoken (or written)!!!:) You can always be more senior........................unless you are number 1!!!!!:D

Denny

acl65pilot 01-12-2010 03:51 PM

I know that by those numbers I will have to pass up seats so that I am not seat locked to get to the next senior one.

I am in the top 1-2% the last decade of my career. I am also not that young, just lucky on when I was hired.

Those are for the entire company by the way, not for my seniority.

After 2027 (52) I will hold what I want.

johnso29 01-12-2010 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 742916)
Johnso,

I think y'all are talking about what you got for a primary vacation bid and whether you will keep it.

If you are MD'd, which I don't think you or super are, you will keep your vacation. For AE/VD and I think for reinstatement (check with the union on this one), you bid your vacation based on the category you hold on 31 Jan 2010. If you convert on April 1 2010, you will rebid all your vacations at once. If you convert any month after this and have bid a week or whatever before you convert, you take your vacation and have fun!:)

It all depends on what category you hold on 31 jan and when you convert.

Denny

Denny,

I'm being reinstated to the 320, & have training this month. So if I'm understanding you correctly my primary vacation award will be kept which is what I thought. :)

Thanks.

FrankCobretti 01-12-2010 04:14 PM

I'm building an Excel spreadsheet of 73NG LOD flashcards. Since I'm a bit slow, it has just now occurred to me that someone else may have already done this project. Anyone? Anyone?

80ktsClamp 01-12-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 742954)
I'm building an Excel spreadsheet of 73NG LOD flashcards. Since I'm a bit slow, it has just now occurred to me that someone else may have already done this project. Anyone? Anyone?


There's probably one on the ALPA site. There's one for hte 76/75 LOD under the documents section (at least there used to be).

I still ended up making my own to help myself study- planning on doing the same for the fluff.

buzzpat 01-12-2010 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 742954)
I'm building an Excel spreadsheet of 73NG LOD flashcards. Since I'm a bit slow, it has just now occurred to me that someone else may have already done this project. Anyone? Anyone?

There's a great study guide available on DALPA that has all the gouge you'll ever need. Shoot me a PM and I'll send it to you. As far as LOD flashcards, I did the memory items and limitations and I can send you those, but not the LOD, too many items.

1234 01-12-2010 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 742944)
Denny,

I'm being reinstated to the 320, & have training this month. So if I'm understanding you correctly my primary vacation award will be kept which is what I thought. :)

Thanks.


Are you going to be in DTW or MSP? Welcome back to the short bus :)


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