Had the exact opposite experience on the -9. Coming down final we felt a thump; everything indicated normal so we figured we must've hit a bird. In reality, it was the #4 tire blowing out. Landed normally, normal reverse/braking, and taxied to parking. We had no idea anything was wrong until we got to the gate and everyone was looking at our airplane kind of funny.

 

The negative I see is that if we lose in court, we solidify that holding companies are never air carriers and that opens up the ability for our section one to never reach through a holding company. With a Skyteam or Air France quasi merger there is very dangerous to have, imo.

Also, from what I gathered, no "decision" has been made. Resolutions were passed and they need to wait for answers for some of those resolutions. I briefly talked to a rep about this, but it was among other subjects.

Seriously, call them, I plan to later this week.

 

That may be it, I do not know. RJET is totally different than AMR Eagle, as it is a code share agreement, and Mesa, was a different animal completely. I know that there are some issues with the definition of "Air Carrier" and the intent of what an air carrier is, and it never being a holding company and only a certificate holder. I think it has less to do with precedence than the issue of the definition. Saying that RJET is acting like an air carrier is true, but until we get DOT backing that a holding company is an "air carrier" as well as a holding company, the legal answer may leave us dead in the water.

I do not agree with it, but then again, I am not a lawyer and they are the ones that tell us what latitude the definition, as currently defined, can give us. I am sure a independent lawyer would tell you the same thing if he/she was not trying to just steal your money.

From what I gather it is not for a lack of desire, and the decision will be one that the reps make, not one they are told to make. If you have been to a MEC meeting with the "ALPA" lawyers present, you would quickly realize that they present legal opinions based on all information available to them. They then ask the Reps how they want to proceed. It is not underhanded or scheming in any level. It actually is downright boring and take the wind out of many arguments very quickly. These lawyers have been doing labor law for a very long time. They want to see us win, trust me.

 

You need to study the media reports more carefully.
It was obviously a torque problem in the flux capacitor.
Clearly pilot error. Why else would the clutch be damaged?

 

How could I forget the flux capacitor?

Damn. I suck.

 

That and the fact that Delta pilots are overpaid....and we charge for baggage. That's what caused the fire. Damn Delta, can't wait for Southwest to fly into Atlanta and relieve all of this incompetence.

 

and the 1.21 gigawatts

 

Hey, the flux capacitor activates at 88 MPH. It was an MD-88. Coincidence? I think not!

 

TV news is good for video only, preferably with the sound muted...

Delta plane catches fire at Hartsfield

By Kristi E. Swartz

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A Delta Air Lines flight coming from Pittsburgh caught fire as it landed on the runway at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport late Saturday afternoon.

Four passengers sought first aid for minor injuries, but no one was hospitalized, according to Atlanta Fire Capt. Jolyon Bundridge.

The flight had 44 passengers and five crew members, according to information from Delta.

The brakes on the plane -- #2284 -- overheated on the taxiway, which caused the fire, Delta said, using information from their operations control center.

FAA officials reported that the plane blew a tire while landing.

The plane has been taken out of service and will be examined at a maintenance facility to determine exactly what happened, a Delta spokeswoman said.

Smoke and flames could be seen coming from the plane while it was on the runway.

Passengers were evacuated using emergency slides or stairs from multiple exits and then taken by bus to the terminal, Delta said.

Delta officials haven't determined whether Saturday's incident will impact any of its other flights.

 

File this under the "how are the loads this holiday weekend?" file: just came off a three day, 7 leg domestic trip. Mostly coast-to-coast stuff at all hours of the day and night. Not a single seat available on any leg. Two were oversold in a big way. If we're not making money, we're doing something wrong.