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Old 06-01-2011 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
It's small but growing:


FTB,
You must be looking at the pics above (or previous page)
Old 06-01-2011 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ball Breaker
FTB,
You must be looking at the pics above (or previous page)
Shania and Kate pics came before the Berber baby pic.


Albeit I bet that kids rich. I heard Taylor Swift, while insiders say not the strongest of singers, is raking in something like $20M a year because she's not only the singer but the writer. Smart girl. And she owns the 13-21 year old market and 21+ who still think about 13-21.

I'll say this about musicians. When I did corporate charter flying I flew musicians/bands, baseball players, lots of basketball players, CEOs, COOs but never ever an NFL player. And believe it or not a single CFB player not even any from Ohio State! I know its raw, its not fair, not right, live in glass house or actually crystal cathedral, blah blah blah.

fwiw, before satch comes out of his basement... it's been a year and nada...

Old 06-01-2011 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
How can we sunset the current agreements when Delta keeps signing more and renewing expiring ones?
If you look at DAL's own layering of these new DCI CPA's you will notice that they too admit that these jets have a quickly approaching expiration date. With Jets like the C-series on the way in the next three to five years, DAL in a way has show its hand. They know where the market is going. They have not said who will fly it, that is up to us, but they have told you what seat segment will be doing the Lion's Share of it. After the Pinnacle purchase of Mesaba, which had a 10 year agreement, everything else has been six year tops. Now within ever DCI CPA, there is a thinning of the fleets as well. Literally in the next ten year these current generation RJ's will be toast.
Applying a Sunset clause to what DAL has already admitted, though the layering of these CPA's, is a lot easier. If there is a fight from them, it is not because of these jets, it is because there is somewhere in the back offices of these RJ manufacturers a plan to hang a gtf on a 76 seat jet if scope holds. Simply put demanding a sunset provision is good insurance, and makes DAL sign on the dotted line on what they have been saying all for quite some time about RJ's.
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If DAL cannot get the 717's en mass this will be our baby, and I expect a gigantic discount on it.
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Paris Air Show starts June 20th. This is when announcements are more likely than not.

However, Delta's own economic team might have figured out early what the rest of the economic World seems to be figuring out today. .. that US GDP growth is less than expected. Typically the overall flying for Delta (us and the other 50%) correlates with national GDP pretty well. The eye popping figure is that Bombardier is getting 737NG money for these jets, $65 million for an early order that Bombardier needed desperately. This is around 20 to 25 million more than a E175 and nearly twice the cost of the CRJ super stretch. While this airplane is supposed to have great economics, that's a pile of capital expense.

Anyway, here's hope to those who would not miss flying a Douglas jet.
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!


The DPA thread has been moved.

What really would be scary would be if we started Moding the L and G thread
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
If you look at DAL's own layering of these new DCI CPA's you will notice that they too admit that these jets have a quickly approaching expiration date. With Jets like the C-series on the way in the next three to five years, DAL in a way has show its hand. They know where the market is going. They have not said who will fly it, that is up to us, but they have told you what seat segment will be doing the Lion's Share of it. After the Pinnacle purchase of Mesaba, which had a 10 year agreement, everything else has been six year tops. Now within ever DCI CPA, there is a thinning of the fleets as well. Literally in the next ten year these current generation RJ's will be toast.
Applying a Sunset clause to what DAL has already admitted, though the layering of these CPA's, is a lot easier. If there is a fight from them, it is not because of these jets, it is because there is somewhere in the back offices of these RJ manufacturers a plan to hang a gtf on a 76 seat jet if scope holds. Simply put demanding a sunset provision is good insurance, and makes DAL sign on the dotted line on what they have been saying all for quite some time about RJ's.
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If DAL cannot get the 717's en mass this will be our baby, and I expect a gigantic discount on it.
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Old 06-01-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
what really would be scary would be if we started moding the l and g thread
dont you dare.

especially before 100,000 posts
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
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Of course. IMO, DAL sits in a good position. They take the 717 which really does not compliment LUV's fleet for cheap, and can make it work for ours, if they try to make a go with it, fine. We will buy the C-Series which frankly needs us to be a major order holder. They need to order, RJET is 50-50 if they will actually get them, and they need a win. DAL can exert enormous pricing pressure on them to get a good deal, and I expect Bombardier knows this.
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
dont you dare.

especially before 100,000 posts
No saying I would, just adding some perspective.

FWIW, I have been posting less and reading more, the DPA thread seemed to go the way of a bashing thread. I am really surprised on Mod had not locked it. At least and the union section we can still beat each other up.
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Of course. IMO, DAL sits in a good position. They take the 717 which really does not compliment LUV's fleet for cheap, and can make it work for ours, if they try to make a go with it, fine. We will buy the C-Series which frankly needs us to be a major order holder. They need to order, RJET is 50-50 if they will actually get them, and they need a win. DAL can exert enormous pricing pressure on them to get a good deal, and I expect Bombardier knows this.
Who determines rates for the C-series or 717 at DAL? From what I understand, Southwest is planning on operating the 717 at their current 737 rates. Assuming the same would apply at DAL.
Old 06-01-2011 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!


The DPA thread has been moved.
A lot of the DPA discussion has migrating here anyway, but it's interesting how much the ALPA apologists cannot tolerate the free expression of ideas. They'll stop at nothing to control discussion in their vain attempt to control opinion.

If I didn't know anything about either side's arguments, I would be very suspicious of the side that was constantly trying to silence the other. We must have a lot of moderators who are also ALPA apologists.

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