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acl65pilot 06-04-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1003213)
If 80% of Delta pilots had Alaskan payrates, hourly quarantees and retirement it would be a step up. Delta pilot costs are lower than Alaska for anyone other than a newhire, yet Delta continues to transfer flying to them.

*Went back and looked on APC, for newhires its about dead even when you consider the higher hourly and lower monthly guarantee. With the contract (greenslips, etc) there is likely better career earnings at Delta.

I imagine the shift in flying from Delta to Alaska is to focus the premium narrow bodies (737/320) elsewhere in the system, target other markets.

FWIW, we are but one facet in the total cost associated with labor. Many of ALK's costs are lower than our when it comes to labor, just not their pilots. :eek:

johnso29 06-04-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1003194)
johnso29, thanks for the ride to work the other day. Enjoyed meeting you.

Anytime! I bum rides every week. And it was good to meet you too. Glad we had room for you in 1st. :D

RiddleEagle18 06-04-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1003187)
The -9 is a handful for some guys that flew the RJ for a long time. Glass cockpits can make your skills fall off quick. That was what was good about the NWA interview, we had a sim ride in the interview and that weeded out those with less than steller flying skills. Now those guys probably could fly a glass cockpit like champs but when newhires here are going on the -9 or -88 they're going to have to have decent skills.

FWIW. He passed the NWA interview and the 727 interview sim ride. Just had a difficult time with the 9 for whatever reason. Hes a bit older(50's I believe). That may have contributed.

cni187 06-04-2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 1003181)
It's pretty sad if you don't possess the core flying skills to fly the -9 and still get hired here. And what does it say about our contract if we are now becoming a placeholder until something better comes along?

The 2 that left for SWA were in my class. Both chose to return to SWA when called because of QOL/Family. They both lived at a SWA base and didn't want to commute

cni187 06-04-2011 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 1003187)
The -9 is a handful for some guys that flew the RJ for a long time. Glass cockpits can make your skills fall off quick. That was what was good about the NWA interview, we had a sim ride in the interview and that weeded out those with less than steller flying skills. Now those guys probably could fly a glass cockpit like champs but when newhires here are going on the -9 or -88 they're going to have to have decent skills.

HEY! The Mad Dog has glass! Now only if it would quit fogging up so we could see it!

hockeypilot44 06-04-2011 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 1003237)
FWIW. He passed the NWA interview and the 727 interview sim ride. Just had a difficult time with the 9 for whatever reason. Hes a bit older(50's I believe). That may have contributed.

The NWA interview did not consist of a 727 sim ride. The Compass interview was not the same as the NWA interview. I know someone who did both. The Compass interview was a lot less competitive.

JungleBus 06-04-2011 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1003132)
Other than squatting on RA's desk and punching a grumpy while shouting "Who's your daddy, BEOTCH!" just about the only talk that will get you fired is anything derogatorily anti-PC. Surely a pilot isn't that stupid to step on the ole crank.:rolleyes:

As I heard it, there was a DL pilot jumpseating who was shooting his mouth off about Compass newhires, and the ex-Compass newhire was very less than diplomatic in his response. Dumb to do on probation, yeah. But somewhat understandable.

Thrust Normal 06-04-2011 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1003273)
As I heard it, there was a DL pilot jumpseating who was shooting his mouth off about Compass newhires, and the ex-Compass newhire was very less than diplomatic in his response. Dumb to do on probation, yeah. But somewhat understandable.

From what I understand that didn't happen. But I've heard about 5 versions of the why.

Bucking Bar 06-04-2011 03:46 PM

Are we still taking a little trickle of new hires?

Sorry to hear some folks are having problems. The DC9 / MD88 is a anachronistic jet that would be a rather harsh change is the new hire had gained nearly all their experience in modern, well designed, well functioning equipment. In our class the single seat guys found the MD88 to be very challenging, but they had the right mind set, knew where to focus their energies and when to be humble. All but one made it through. The guy we lost also ended up at Southwest and I hear he's doing great on the 737.

For the civilians, time in an older turboprop would likely be of more value than RJ time. The recent generation of regional jets are very well designed and easy to fly. Aviation has advanced a lot in the half century which has elapsed since the Douglas engineers drew the first design sketches on cave walls.

Certainly our skills on EP's were sharpest on the E120. That thing broke in some of the most dramatic ways at least one a month.


Highfive 06-04-2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Normal (Post 1003280)
From what I understand that didn't happen. But I've heard about 5 versions of the why.

And that is exactly why people should let these guys speak for themselves because they are the only ones who really know what happened.


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