Let's just say I really don't believe that. I think we will agree that most ALPA volunteers (you and me included I'm guessing) do it for the sake of their fellow pilots, not ALPA national. I just don't get why guys think the DPA is some sort of panacea to anything that might ail ALPA.

I think we tend to take any of ALPA's failures and magnify them across decades, while not being aware of or even ignoring any success. Think that "DPA Aeromedical" will be anything remotely as effective or useful as ALPA Aeromedical? Guys complain about Age 65, but since it passed Congress unilaterally, we all see how effective the APA was in stopping that train--their own congressional rep igonored them!

As for SWAPA...yes they've been and are a great in-house union, but they were (and are) some of the strongest "Repeal Age 60" groups out there. Strangely none of the venom reserved for ALPA--who actually shaped some of the Age 65 legislation to make it even less onerous than it could have been (no 61 year old retirees coming back to take "their" old left seat)--has been thrown at SWAPA, where it should have been from the outset.

Carl, I can tell you are a good guy, and I just have to disagree with you. I acknowledge that national ALPA is a mixed bag, but I think we are better off remaining with them than leaving--just a business decision in my opinion, just as you feel the DPA is the best business decision.

 

d'oh!

I should not have written 76 seaters. I'll change it when I'm not getting a 10% battery warning.

that number I put is 70-76 seaters but there isn't 255 yet but that's the limit. 255 51-70 seat jets, of which I thought the company never wanted but hey, whipsaw. But 255 and 120 76 seaters but the grand total of 51-76 seaters may not exceed 255 give or take some mainline growth clauses.

Right now there are 70 CRJ700s, 101 CRJ900s, 52 EMB175s. What is that, 223?

BTW, there is also 352 CRJ100/200s.

The DCI fleet is 619 aircraft, the mainline fleet is 722. Total 1341 aircraft.

Boomer, there is nothing wrong with applying, let them decide what qualifies.

 

Xtreme,

The above does not even take into account the fact that the DCI CAPTs on the 900 would most likely be maxed out on the years of service scale. For example if they top out at 12 or 18 years of longevity they would most likely be flying the 900 at the top of their pay scale. At DAL, when (if) the movement starts, the 900 would be the entry level CAPT seat and (theoretically) guys could bid that with, I don't know 6-8 years longevity thus helping to keep the cost down.

I do hear quite often that it is not the pilot payrates that keep the smaller jets at DCI, but all the other employee costs, like gate agents, FAs etc. I guess that could be true, but I find that hard to believe. Especially when I see contract maintenance, DAL gate agents working DCI flights, contractually provided guaranteed profits, passed along fuel expenses etc.

Scoop

 

Yes, we can still slide one way and expand the other. Nothing has changed since you left wrt vacation other than trip rig is now 3.75 to 1 so some pay days are worth 6+24 while a vacation day is still only 6+00.

Past...

 

Flag - Lack of "Delta's L&G" Thread decorum.

You mean on a deadhead like that, you couldn't convince said Coed to let you take a picture, "for the guys on the forum". You had, what, at least an hour and a half to work it.

 

The man has a point FTB!!

Carl

 

Yes, i could do that, but repeat offender laws then come into play.

 

Ha ha! Well come on over to the 88, I'll be here long time.

 

Whoa!!! [sound of brakes squealing] There is no ALPA Aeromedical. ALPA outsources this service to a company called AMAS (Aviation Medicine Advisor Service) in Denver, CO. Here's a link to their clients: AMAS Clients

There is no reason that DPA or anybody else could not provide this same level of service by simply subscribing to it.

 

Yep-swapa and apa use them.