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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1050710)
acl and johnso got it right. Here's how I would answer:
Its a union sanctioned contract violation that abrogates seniority and costs jobs. And if you think that's bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Some people want out of base swaps. |
How about pay tables based on a per mile basis?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1050745)
How about pay tables based on a per mile basis?
Prior to 1996 we got paid by weight, speed and mileage. |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1050726)
Seems as though we have a lot of things that need to be fixed in the next contract.
My oh my, aren't you the master of understatement. :D |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1050759)
My oh my, aren't you the master of understatement. :D
Trust me, if I were to make a bold statement on what needs to be done, it would be distorted. This place is starting to remind me of congress again. |
Why don't we eliminate trip parking? Just make a provision that once you swap a trip away, you cannot get that specific trip back. Simple fix.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1050636)
From my best estimates, with just shy of 10,800 pilots flying the line and given their average seniority multiplied by the pay tables with some assumptions thrown in for benefits and employment costs and so forth I think we're spending just shy of $1.7B on the pilot group.
If we didn't change the ALVs (using Sep 11 numbers) and went to SWA=DC9 pay you're looking at $800M cost increase. Or an increase of $138K average pilot pay (not including benefits, employment costs) to $208K or a $70K increase. I'm assuming.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1050685)
My math backs up yours.
2008: $19 Billion of debt = Approx. $1.5 Billion of debt service 2013: $10 Billion of debt = Approx. $700 Million of debt service (refinanced to better terms) Difference: Approx. $800 million 2013-2018: 100 737-900ER's "cash accretive from day one"-R. Anderson Mo' Money to pay down debt! Even if only $800 Million in reduced debt service: $800M divided by 12000 pilots = $66,667 PER PILOT. They can pay us that much right off the bat, its just a matter of how we want the money split up! |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1050775)
Why don't we eliminate trip parking? Just make a provision that once you swap a trip away, you cannot get that specific trip back. Simple fix.
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Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1050778)
Warning! Cocktail napkin math below!
2008: $19 Billion of debt = Approx. $1.5 Billion of debt service 2013: $10 Billion of debt = Approx. $700 Million of debt service (refinanced to better terms) Difference: Approx. $800 million 2013-2018: 100 737-900ER's "cash accretive from day one"-R. Anderson Mo' Money to pay down debt! Even if only $800 Million in reduced debt service: $800M divided by 12000 pilots = $66,667 PER PILOT. They can pay us that much right off the bat, its just a matter of how we want the money split up! |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1050781)
I'd like it to be heavily weighted towards MD88 FOs. Shiz? :D
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