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Old 10-15-2011, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop View Post
From the council 54 update:

Scope: A historical overview of industry growth and the rise of regional carriers. Economic market forces have made the 50-seat jet destined for phase out. Do pilots want to spend negotiating capitol on a market segment that is economically dead? The current PWA has a total 255 plane limit on 70–76-seat RJs based on a fleet of 767 mainline aircraft. An area of management interest could be the 76–120 seat market. Scope is not all about RJs. It also pertains to who flies the larger aircraft in our joint ventures (JV) and code shares. These are the areas of increasing threat to the careers of Delta pilots. Do you care if little or no attention is paid in these areas of the contract? ALL of us will suffer more stagnation if we do not receive our fair share of the JVs that are in fact virtual mergers if not for U.S. laws on airline ownership. We have been vocal and vigilant about the threats to our jobs that cabotage would bring. Should Delta pilots continue to review and provide input to JV agreements? Pilots have the power and control to make these areas priorities in the contract survey. What’s good for Delta the corporation might not be good for Delta pilots. What do you think?




Yes I care!!! I am sure we all care. Do you really need to ask that question? Is there some reason JV's and small aircraft Scope are mutually exclusive???? It always bothers me when guys bring up a different issue when discussing Scope and say "But Hey, this is important too."

OK - Now here is my wise (or Wise-A$$) thought of the week.

If your boat has two leaks, fixing one is usually not a valid solution.

Finally, my advice to all who put a lot of effort and hard work into our contract - How about you pay attention to the whole thing!


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PS - This is not meant to be a slam against 54 - Hell, at least they mention Scope, but is meant to point out what surely must be an ALPA talking point.
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
Some seem open, others seem closed. Hmmmmm......El Chupacabra?
WARNING - I've seen these change. Two years ago, the 'back door' showed me having Christmas off. Too quick to call the wife, had to eat big crow pie.

Mine's showing up now with this option, however.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:01 AM
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Could this have any meaning wrt our upcoming contract?
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
Could this have any meaning wrt our upcoming contract?
I don't know... that's kinda deep. But I'm thinking it's a pretty good metaphor for ALPA doing a lot of planning, putting out "education", taking surveys, promising they're listening, etc... and then using all that to achieve an end result that's pretty meaningless and doesn't really do much of anything.

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Old 10-15-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Did they close the back door way of viewing your schedule before it pops up in crew resources?
Nope, still there.
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
I don't know... that's kinda deep. But I'm thinking it's a pretty good metaphor for ALPA doing a lot of planning, putting out "education", taking surveys, promising they're listening, etc... and then using all that to achieve an end result that's pretty meaningless and doesn't really do much of anything.

How'd I do?
I dunno.. fine I guess. I just saw that and I thought it was pretty funny, and I was quickly trying to think of a reason to post it. I could have as easily made some reference to the upcoming beating my Big Orange is gonna get at the hands of the Bayou Bengals today. ugh..
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Nope, still there.
Can you enlighten me? I've just been looking at the crew resources bid awards...PM if you'd like.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:07 AM
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ATLERB is available, even though the X isn't there. just click on the _.
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Old 10-15-2011, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
I dunno.. fine I guess. I just saw that and I thought it was pretty funny, and I was quickly trying to think of a reason to post it. I could have as easily made some reference to the upcoming beating my Big Orange is gonna get at the hands of the Bayou Bengals today. ugh..
I thought it was funny too.

And I hope your "Big Orange" takes it to the "Bayou Bengals" today! Helps my Sooners!!!

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Old 10-15-2011, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90 View Post
Can you enlighten me? I've just been looking at the crew resources bid awards...PM if you'd like.
If you open the oct award, then change the oct to nov in the web address sometimes that will work.
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