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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1083607)

MEM guys? I don't think so. They will MD into ATL. IF they lived in the NE they would have already picked the DTW 320. The 320 and DC9 guys will MD into ATL on the 320, the 330, and the MD88. But, there will be a certain group who would love to fly the bus in NYC. Can you think who I am talking about? BOS commuters, due to the Shuttle flying have home layovers.

Trickle down I think the bottom of each category in NYC ER B and down is going to be filled with some MD's.

I think that's what ACL might have been referring to.

Currently NYC ER has guys from the very last class hired that were MD'd into it.

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1083615)

Does anyone think Delta is setting up to furlough?

What were they saying last time? One would have to be out for at least 2 years to make it worth it?

Retirements aren't terribly far off and it wasn't long ago they were belly aching about not knowing when the 60+ might walk or have to walk.

Add the Compass mess and I'll also toss in a NO vote.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1083285)

Carl the answer is simple, we allow it [the JV outsourcing excesses].

I agree, but that's only half the equation. The other half is management leadership. If RA wants credit for being the visionary, brilliant C.E. Woolman reincarnate many (including himself) see him as, he needs to lead from the top and stop trying to run a Leo Mullin/Rakesh Gangwal/Glen Tilton Virginia Avenue travel agency and start running the worlds premier airline. You can't, ever, do that with the level of mass outsourcing just for the sake of oursourcing that our company is being directed from the top to implement. Its great that we're paying down debt (we wouldn't be around long if we weren't) and actually trying to price our product at or above what it costs to pruduce (novel concept in this industry for sure) but that's not enough. We need leadership from the top that puts this airline, its employees and its customers first.

Worshiping the shareholders to impress the crackberry analcysts might get us a favorable one day bump here and there when our next "capacity dicipline" press release comes out, but its harming the core product and revenue generating engine of this airline for the long term. When that happens, the shareholders get punished even more than labor when they lose 100%. Shareholders have to be placed firmly behind labor and customers or all 3 lose.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1083306)

That cut in pay will allow Delta to hire two GoJet pilots.

Just two? Did they get a raise?

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Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1083454)

Transportation between LGA/JFK adds up. Or over to EWR if you get a trip there, since NYC covers all three. May not happen to a line holder, but reserves can't be so picky.

Oh no.. junior line holders have that expense too. 6am LGA sign ins... 2300 arrivals.. Same at JFK which results in either hotel rooms or a crash pad and all the requisite transportation. Yeah.. unless you are above 2000 in seniority or below 4900 or so, it just ain't worth it. Trust me. :D

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Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1083563)

One more thing to think about - What if this supposed 1 year lock was the deciding factor that prompts the company to start hiring 1 year earlier than without it? How do you think the new hires would feel about that? How would we all feel about that?

Scoop

Talk about off the reservation speculation...

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1083584)

Whoever it was, it wasn't newK. Engines know better than to catch on fire with him.

He once had both engines catch on fire at the same time. It doubled his climb rate. At the destination he wrote it up and MX signed it off "ops check normal, could not duplicate".

Contract question

Hey guys,

I have 6:30 am shortcall tomorrow. Scheduling just called and assigned me a rotation with an 1120 report time, but said I was still on shortcall at 0630.

Can they actually do that ???

Thanks,
BG

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1083354)

Novel, but most could not see their houses if they wanted to. Many have spouses with careers in a city they live in, and cannot afford the loss of pay. Many have spouses that are major caregivers to their grandchildren so their daughters/sons can work.

There are a few that commute because they want to live in X, but most do it to keep a marriage together, and can afford to live with paycuts. Forcing pilot to get rid of that second income may wake a few of them up though.

For most of us, even if we wanted to live in NYC or LA (or even SEA in some respects) the company does not pay us enough (especially FOs, but in most cases CA, also) to live in even a modest home (rent or own). That is the reason that the commuter rates for those bases is very high. Can't see how you would get anyone to move there now without some sort of locality pay (much, much more than base pay). Also, what are you going to do everytime an MD pushes someone out of a base. Commuting is not a choice - just ask all the 320/330 guys that moved to MSP and now no longer have an A/C to fly.

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1083600)

I totally understand the concerns about what we may have given up for this, but as an old guy, I would have given my left *** to be be seat locked in a window seat instead of the back seat of a 727.

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