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Old 06-08-2009, 06:54 PM
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Nor have I. I know a few places there are DAL crew in van only contracts but most guys do not care.
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Old 06-08-2009, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by all4114all View Post
Now that Delta is with Northwest are they going to allow other "brothers and sisters" pilots from other airlines to ride in their vans?
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Normally they have their flight attendants tell you there is not room on the van. Real men they are. It was the most fun rides I ever had on a hotel van and still is.
Qualifier, I'm new to Delta (a little over a year now) and I fly domestic. However, I've never heard of or seen any pilot ever refusing to ride with anyone. I've never heard another pilot talk bad of other aircrew. In fact, I've seen crews get into good discussions about the ins and outs of each others' company. Finally, it is *extremely* rare (I can remember 5 times), where we, the pilots, shared a van with the flight attendants because we are either in different hotels or have different lines.

Either I live a sheltered life, or you sir, love to make stuff up.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
There are penalties for canceling the flow. The flow survives even if CPS is sold.
Interesting... how do you think DALPA can enforce a flowback on what would then be a third company... kind of like saying that if the Buffalo Bills cut TO, then Romo has to sit the bench... or something like that..
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare View Post
Interesting... how do you think DALPA can enforce a flowback on what would then be a third company... kind of like saying that if the Buffalo Bills cut TO, then Romo has to sit the bench... or something like that..
Well I always look to history to see what has happned in similar situations. When Continental voted in ALPA and booted the IACP it only took a year and XJT was sold, the flow cancelled, and any future furloughed CAL mainline guys were on the street. The company wanted that and ALPA National did nothing to stop it nor did the new CALALPA guys who were doing whatever their new leadership guys in VA were telling them to do. In the end, mainline pilots lost their jobs. I highly doubt we will have any support from ALPA National on a flow issue and it appears DALPA also has this issue on the bottom of their priority list. In a year CPS will be sold, we will have Delta guys in the unemployment line, and DCI carriers will be hiring to staff 76-seat jets weighing 90,000 pounds.

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Old 06-08-2009, 07:26 PM
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What's the word on the on going Delta and Boeing talks ref 787 compensation/777LR orders?
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:49 PM
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Can any F-NWA guys on here (was at the bar in LGA with a bunch of NWA guys last week... they rather liked the "NERD" thing) find the wording of the CPZ LOA and the penalties involved when they are sold?

I know its someplace in the archives of Flightinfo... I'll see if I can rummage up anything.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:22 PM
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Max # of large RJ's reduced to 55

"In the event that (i) the requirements of Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(d)7' are not met, or (ii) the rights to pilot positions or flow rights set forth in Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(d)2' together with Letter of Agreement 2006-10 as they may apply to the Feeder Carrier Affiliate or Feeder Carrier Successor, are modified or terminated for any reason, other than through a written agreement between the Company and Association as representative of the Company’s pilots, the maximum number of 51–76 seat aircraft permitted by Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(a) shall be reduced to the lower cap (i.e. 55)"
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234 View Post
Max # of large RJ's reduced to 55

"In the event that (i) the requirements of Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(d)7' are not met, or (ii) the rights to pilot positions or flow rights set forth in Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(d)2' together with Letter of Agreement 2006-10 as they may apply to the Feeder Carrier Affiliate or Feeder Carrier Successor, are modified or terminated for any reason, other than through a written agreement between the Company and Association as representative of the Company’s pilots, the maximum number of 51–76 seat aircraft permitted by Section 1 B.7.c.(7)(a) shall be reduced to the lower cap (i.e. 55)"
with that in the contract they would never cancel the flow and our MEC should know better than to negotiate that away.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:52 PM
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Well, "never" is a long time and I have grown to be quite cynical in my relatively short duration around here.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234 View Post
Well, "never" is a long time and I have grown to be quite cynical in my relatively short duration around here.
well i agree, it should read never, as long as its left in the contract and we have a contract in place
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