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Old 11-18-2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That whole van deal is one touchy subject. I agree the pilots should get it too, but I was told the reason the FA"s get it is for their safety.
I understand your point, but isn't that discriminatory? What about male FA's? Or female pilots? Do male FA's need it, or do female pilots NOT need it?

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Old 11-18-2011 | 12:12 PM
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Just heard that the NMB just stated that Delta did not interfere with the flight attendant union elections, maybe paving the way for integration of North and South Flight attendants. Stay tuned!
Old 11-18-2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Sure beats the





Which really beats not being able to go around when you want to:

Old 11-18-2011 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Why?

If so, why do we carry them all over New York on "our" van? How many things to they "me too" on with the pilots.

Seems like ALPA and the CPO could agree nearly instantly that's a stupid rule and change it.
Good luck with that.....

I don't like it but that's the reality.
Old 11-18-2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Just heard that the NMB just stated that Delta did not interfere with the flight attendant union elections, maybe paving the way for integration of North and South Flight attendants. Stay tuned!
source? nothing on-line yet. Gonna be ugly, but we do need to get that over with asap.
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That whole van deal is one touchy subject. I agree the pilots should get it too, but I was told the reason the FA"s get it is for their safety.
Pilots can be mugged/harassed on public transportation too. I'm not intimately familiar with the NYC issues, but if true, this is a flimsy excuse. Is one employee group (or gender majority) more valuable than another?

Can't we all just get along?
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That whole van deal is one touchy subject. I agree the pilots should get it too, but I was told the reason the FA"s get it is for their safety.
Which begs the question...

But I really think it is to help the FA s who are working for peanuts in an expensive city to get to work in a timely manner. We pilots can afford helicopters, therefore no need.
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:39 PM
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Also heard from a couple of folks in hdqr that NLRB ruled in favor of Delta over AFA.
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:43 PM
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Letter 30 & 31 anyone?
Old 11-18-2011 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by n9810f
Also heard from a couple of folks in hdqr that NLRB ruled in favor of Delta over AFA.
Delta Flight Attendant Representation Election Results Upheld - MarketWatch

Looks like it's official.
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