Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-11-2009, 04:26 PM
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Do we have to take the flowback? If one takes it and decides that it ain't for him, can one resign without resigning from Delta? Will leaving or not taking the flowback jeopardize one's return to Mother Delta?
06-11-2009, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
So if we did furlough, hypothetically, when do you think it would happen. The reason I ask is because of SOC. It makes a big difference as far as who gets furloughed if it happens before or after.
I see both of these coming in our near future. I am sure the senior guys will get something for it, but the company needs a AE/Surplus bid now so they can see where we will be post SOC and then they will furlough off of that. After that is cleared up we may have another small bid.
(All IMHO)
That way it clears up the problems with furloughing out of seniority order.
If we stomp our feet on this, they may just take it from one side (guess which one) and make us hate each other for life.
Those look like the options to me.
06-11-2009, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Do we have to take the flowback? If one takes it and decides that it ain't for him, can one resign without resigning from Delta? Will leaving or not taking the flowback jeopardize one's return to Mother Delta?
See more reasons to get em on our list.
06-11-2009, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
I am also curious how the flow back works. What longevity do we start at for pay? Is a Delta flowback subject to their 12,000 dollar training contract?
06-11-2009, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddie
Yes we are. Thanks for you part of the $1B plus. Hell, I'll run for DAPA Pres. if you run for vice. Come on Carl, you know you want a position!
Carl
06-11-2009, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
This looks good, but remember that this spike in fuel (double) is not accounted for by anyone, so the numbers are going to be a lot worse.
The problem children will be AirTran and the other unhedged LCC's. They looked like geniuses when oil was $35...now they're unhedged at $72. Those numbers are going to look REAL bad.
Carl
06-11-2009, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
WHO just raised the alert level to 6 today, indication that a world wide pandemic is underway.
Of course, if I get swine flu... what happens when you get swine flu?
06-11-2009, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Actually, our numbers might be better than expected. We are still currently fuel hedged at prices around where we are now and maybe a bit higher. We were taking a hit on paper when fuel was way down because our hedges were underwater. Now our hedge position is about break even which will make our paper numbers better.
The problem children will be AirTran and the other unhedged LCC's. They looked like geniuses when oil was $35...now they're unhedged at $72. Those numbers are going to look REAL bad.
Carl
The problem children will be AirTran and the other unhedged LCC's. They looked like geniuses when oil was $35...now they're unhedged at $72. Those numbers are going to look REAL bad.
Carl
I thought we have some great fuel hedges going into 2009, is that not the case?
06-11-2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
if they furlough 150 then i'll be the one waving at you from the left seat as i taxi past all you mainline haters 
lol
lolOr is that wishful thinking on my part when I join you?
I'd love to fly that thing. It looks like a lot of fun and I see them everywhere.
06-11-2009, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
As I understand it you do not have to take it, but if you take it you can be fired at CPS. If that happens you are no longer a DAL pilot as well.
See more reasons to get em on our list.
See more reasons to get em on our list.
I don't think going to fly for CPS as an FO would make any financial sense for most DAL pilots.
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