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From the crew lounge yesterday in SLC:
Keeping DC-9's till end of 2013 Next AE, first week of March, DC-9's and MD-90 will be funded by 777, 747 and Domestic 767. We are over by 200 pilots summer 2012. Wow didn't know that 50% of this base "chooses":D to commute. Hiring to start 2013 and to go indefinitely. The presenter is in charge of hiring and is worried about getting enough pilots in the pipeline in order to not over tax the simulator availability. He is concerned about keeping up the quality of pilots. They would rather hire to fill the DC-9 and MD-90 this year but Richard won't go for it. Commentary: In general, we are doing everything to reduce our debt and improve our product (lie flat seats). I am happy about that as I'd rather work for a profitable company than one losing money. But I am banking on my union to help my career and my wife's career along (scope, JV, etc.). Understandably the company is worried about making a profit and not too worried about our stagnation. I'm looking to my union to get our flying back and I've written to my reps and negotiators in that regard. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1139834)
I want to congratulate the poor ATL 88 FO that is in bucket 3.
While many are at 0 credit thus far. I've flown a 1/3rd of what I'd flown by this point normally (and that's saying sometin) and barring a SC trip I probably won't fly again. And I still think this 80 raw score is wrong even if I'm benefiting from it. I think for a domestic NB take the longest trip in category plus 2 days of SC. That should be bucket 1. For an international category, no idea. Ya'll figure out your own problems and stop asking the NB people to fix your messes. It's like what NASA told the crew to Apollo 13, "you got yourself up there, you can get yourself down." |
Originally Posted by Jughead
(Post 1139676)
Mmmm...sort of.
Dispatchers completing required FAA training are ahead of pilots. Dispatchers going to work are ahead of pilots returning from work. :confused: Pilots are ahead of any dispatcher if he (the pilot) is going to work. Pilots on personal travel are ahead of any dispatcher on personal travel. |
Keeping the DC-9's around is a good thing overall, but the downward pressure from all the backward movement means that I'll be stuck on the bloody thing for the forseeable future, even though I can easily hold the 320 or the 7ER and was planning on bidding over with the expected MD. I am OVER the 5 leg a day ATL shuttle flying. Done complaining now.... ;-)
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Originally Posted by contrails
(Post 1139720)
Yesterday you mentioned LAX-PHL was ending.
You may already know, but I thought I'd mention it -- Virgin America's newest city is PHL; LAX and SFO are the flights. http://www.demoties.com/posters/fail...retty-epic.jpg as we provide a steady supply of market share for cut throat competitors. The double whammy is we shrink, and therefore face rising unit costs, while those we provide the capacity relief to grow into enjoy the lower costs they have anyway, amplified by cost reducing growth provided by us in the first place. How many airframes do the (so called) LCC's have on order again? Well at least it buffs our quarterly results. For now. |
Originally Posted by siemprerojo
(Post 1139874)
From the crew lounge yesterday in SLC:
Keeping DC-9's till end of 2013 Next AE, first week of March, DC-9's and MD-90 will be funded by 777, 747 and Domestic 767. We are over by 200 pilots summer 2012. Wow didn't know that 50% of this base "chooses":D to commute. Hiring to start 2013 and to go indefinitely. The presenter is in charge of hiring and is worried about getting enough pilots in the pipeline in order to not over tax the simulator availability. He is concerned about keeping up the quality of pilots. They would rather hire to fill the DC-9 and MD-90 this year but Richard won't go for it. Commentary: In general, we are doing everything to reduce our debt and improve our product (lie flat seats). I am happy about that as I'd rather work for a profitable company than one losing money. But I am banking on my union to help my career and my wife's career along (scope, JV, etc.). Understandably the company is worried about making a profit and not too worried about our stagnation. I'm looking to my union to get our flying back and I've written to my reps and negotiators in that regard. And I'm only coming at this from the economic standpoint of the Company. I'm not even considering the "respect" and "constructive engagement" they are giving up by turning life upside down for six of their "highly valued" pilots and their families. I don't see how it's worth holding off hiring for one year. (Unless that hiring is an empty promise, which I've come to expect). |
Originally Posted by FlyZ
(Post 1139892)
Thanks for the update! Are the training events generated by these widebody displacements seriously less expensive than paying a guy first year pay on the 88/90/DC9 now? I would guess with healthcare and retirement that a new hire costs the company 60-80k the first year. 747-330-764-7ER-73N-M88-DC9 would be six training events. Do we qual a guy on a new jet for less than $10k?
And I'm only coming at this from the economic standpoint of the Company. I'm not even considering the "respect" and "constructive engagement" they are giving up by turning life upside down for six of their "highly valued" pilots and their families. I don't see how it's worth holding off hiring for one year. (Unless that hiring is an empty promise, which I've come to expect). |
Originally Posted by FlyZ
(Post 1139892)
Thanks for the update! Are the training events generated by these widebody displacements seriously less expensive than paying a guy first year pay on the 88/90/DC9 now? I would guess with healthcare and retirement that a new hire costs the company 60-80k the first year. 747-330-764-7ER-73N-M88-DC9 would be six training events. Do we qual a guy on a new jet for less than $10k?
And I'm only coming at this from the economic standpoint of the Company. I'm not even considering the "respect" and "constructive engagement" they are giving up by turning life upside down for six of their "highly valued" pilots and their families. I don't see how it's worth holding off hiring for one year. (Unless that hiring is an empty promise, which I've come to expect). |
Originally Posted by roadrunner65
(Post 1139883)
Keeping the DC-9's around is a good thing overall, but the downward pressure from all the backward movement means that I'll be stuck on the bloody thing for the forseeable future, even though I can easily hold the 320 or the 7ER and was planning on bidding over with the expected MD. I am OVER the 5 leg a day ATL shuttle flying. Done complaining now.... ;-)
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yeah that was a lie.
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