I've heard that it should pick up again in January, not sure what that means... I know it's painful to wait but hold out hope.


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Yep, 4 sims down has killed the momentum. From a July CJO friend of mine, he was told November was a possible completion date. With standard delays that could easily push to December. Based on that I'm hoping class size starts increasing in November.

I feel like there's something missing in the delay explanation. As a July CJO, already AK told us he was aware of the sim/flow challenges that would slow OTS starts. With that, he also said Dec/Jan probable starts and hinted that perhaps it would get better. Now the projections seem far worse (3-5 months after that) - but I don't understand what additional factors have slowed things down from what he already knew. I wonder if this is going to result in guys bailing for other CJOs. I am very fortunate in being in a position to wait for Delta, but I wonder about the folks without paychecks/savings being able to wait out this long.

Really I'm just ****ed that the delay's not over the summer when I can really enjoy the time off. Oh, and the money!

Spreadsheet update
 

Greetings,
I have perused the posts for the last couple of weeks and there are still large gaps of data especially in CJOs. So for number crunching take everything with a grain of salt. Once again, I have no crystal ball, chicken bones, tarot cards or a Ouija board. I only glean info from this forum and whatever I hear via PMs. With that said, looks like all but 3 from the Apr 23 class are in. Perhaps some mil defers prior to that, but looks like hopefully we get to 7 May CJOs for the rest of the year.

Remember, compare the projected street number (black fill, red bold font) to the people ahead of you to project when you will go to INDOC.

Too bad it is such a long wait, I know of at least one person in May who left for UA.

Come on up to SEA on the 73N when you get the chance. You will all be my new best friends. Cheers,
Badger

Edit: looks like 2 people other than compass flows were in the 9/17 class (unknown who though). They have a 9/8 hire so not sure what is up there.

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Awesome Badger, thanks. How long did it take you to get to SEA?

July 7 2014 INDOC, got to SEA in May 2015. Looks like we have room for about 15 FOs there by next summerish.

I am in the bottom 23% but hold a line so and got every weekend off in Sept. Don't ask me how that happened. Blind squirrel.

Regarding renewing airline apps, I'm a May 5 CJO and my year expires next month. I emailed them about my situation and this was the response:

"Hello [my name],

Since you will no longer need the membership, we recommend updating anything if necessary prior to expiration and you can just let it expire. Expiration does not remove your application from the system or from the airline. They can always see applications that are submitted to them whether or not an account is active.

Congratulations on your employment and thank you for the feedback about the system. If you have further questions, please let us know.

Regards,"

May 7th CJO; Apps account expired 31 May. Have received multiple emails from "[email protected]" following expiration but can no longer log in or update account (nor do I care to; Fly Delta Jets!!). Bottom line; don't waste money renewing and will be fine as long as you don't "DELETE" your account.

Sidebar; I believe Delta is doing a great job managing their personnel and iron from what I've read in their newsletters which is why they're #1 profitable carrier and why EVERYONE wants to work there. Things will and have to pick up so CJO's expecting next July 16 need to realize the landscape of summer surge meaning they need
a$$es in seats Mar-Apr to meet demand. Things will pick up... Blow some air in your flight suits, tread water, and grab a cup of KoolAid. Indoc will be here before ya know it!!

My 2 cents...

Sweet! According to the spreadsheet I am number 69 in the cue on the spreadsheet.👍

Delta traditionally slows down training for the summer flying, so in addition to the down sims, all the current pilots holding bids requiring training, but still in their prior categories are starting to filter into the training house. Those guys have to be trained first. Plus side, if you get paired with a captain, you get the better sim times!