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Peoloto 06-04-2016 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by frozentundra (Post 2139966)
Starting indoc next week. In the event there are options, any thoughts on relative difficulty of commute from MSP to NYC, ATL or DTW? I'll be a two leg commuter through MSP in any event until I can move in a year or two.

Thanks!

NYC. ATL and DTW are the worst places to commute to from MSP in the system. DTW because all the senior guys are doing the widebody flying there now and ATL because flights are always full plus tons of dispatchers/office types including quite a few pilots commuting there. I've done both DTW and NYC. NYC is easier all day long and better seniority.

palooza 06-04-2016 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Peoloto (Post 2139976)
NYC. ATL and DTW are the worst places to commute to from MSP in the system. DTW because all the senior guys are doing the widebody flying there now and ATL because flights are always full plus tons of dispatchers/office types including quite a few pilots commuting there. I've done both DTW and NYC. NYC is easier all day long and better seniority.

Not to mention there are simply more flights to NYC than any other.. I'm 2-leggin it through Msp to NYC also and have found it very manageable with many options. It was something like 22 options a day to NYC area vs the next best Atlanta at around 8. No comparison.

Chibbs 06-04-2016 10:11 PM

Anyone commuting from Rapid City, SD (KRAP) to MSP by chance? How is that? The passenger loads always seem full in travel net.

MikeF16 06-05-2016 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by frozentundra (Post 2139966)
Starting indoc next week. In the event there are options, any thoughts on relative difficulty of commute from MSP to NYC, ATL or DTW? I'll be a two leg commuter through MSP in any event until I can move in a year or two.

Thanks!

Not sure where you're coming from, but don't overlook LAX as it is a fairly junior base. We've also got SEA and SLC but they are more senior but certainly not impossible for a new hire to get their fairly soon.

palooza 06-05-2016 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 2140027)
Not sure where you're coming from, but don't overlook LAX as it is a fairly junior base. We've also got SEA and SLC but they are more senior but certainly not impossible for a new hire to get their fairly soon.

With a name like frozen tundra, I'm guessing via Msp is about the only hub route option. On the second leg out of Msp, NYC is by far the easiest to commute. Seattle had a handful of options, slc same, lax same...then you look at NYC and besides having direct flights on Delta, there are other airline options too. Puts it around 30 options including sun country, et al. Any are doable, but it's going to be the easiest from Uffda land.

frozentundra 06-05-2016 05:21 AM

Thanks for the gouge everybody! Good to know before I sign myself up for a really tough commute. I'm up in Nodak, so MSP is just about it except maybe Chicago on UAL.

gloopy 06-05-2016 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 2139291)
Thank you. Could you tell me what is meant when he said that "this will be fixed very soon"? Does that mean that staffing on the 717 is progressively getting better?

Things ebb and flow. The funny thing is whenever something changes, a lot of people think and act like its the new normal forever. The 717 and 88 are (very) short right now, so that means staffing for those fleets will catch up. The shortage is triggering contractual catch up provisions and they can't be this short forever. For a long time the 717 was over staffed and there were complaints about how there was nothing extra, although it was easier to modify your schedule. Now its raining green and people complain they can't swap days. :roll eyes:

Regardless of where we are in the cycle, narrow body pilots will almost always fly a lot in the summer. If you want a safe space where no one will bother you either go to the 777 or go to college :D

Tee1Up 06-05-2016 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 2138889)
What sort of reserve utilization are the junior MD88 and 717 FOs in ATL seeing? Pretty much working every day of reserve duty? Or not quite so bad?

What the other guys said...but apples and oranges depending on if you live in your base or not. If you're one of the lucky ones who happens to get based at home as a new hire...getting called every day on reserve might suck. But if you're stuck in a crappy crash pad in a city far from home...then flying everyday on reserve maybe isn't so bad. Like they said, you get off probation faster, and you're not living in a crappy crash pad. Flying a lot as a new hire is not a bad thing. Whatever situation you find yourself in, welcome to the company! You're going to have a good time. Enjoy the ride!

Chakerik 06-05-2016 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2140169)
Things ebb and flow. The funny thing is whenever something changes, a lot of people think and act like its the new normal forever. The 717 and 88 are (very) short right now, so that means staffing for those fleets will catch up. The shortage is triggering contractual catch up provisions and they can't be this short forever. For a long time the 717 was over staffed and there were complaints about how there was nothing extra, although it was easier to modify your schedule. Now its raining green and people complain they can't swap days. :roll eyes:

Regardless of where we are in the cycle, narrow body pilots will almost always fly a lot in the summer. If you want a safe space where no one will bother you either go to the 777 or go to college :D

I like what you did there 😂

cynicalaviator 06-05-2016 08:45 PM

Except for the Delta regional affiliates (eg: endeavour, compass, etc. ), Can the recruiting team really obtain one's attendance record?


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