[QUOTE=Carl Spackler;1748967]C2012 will be 3.5 years in duration on the amendable date. How you can call that a "very short contract" is beyond me.

Really it was 3 and you know that. Tell us about the length of the contracts at other airlines!

Before any one feels to bad for Carl remember his hourly pay rate at NWA before the merger was 178 an hour. The tough NWA MEC had locked that in for 6 years with tiny raises.
Carl then 178.00
Carl today 340.00 effective pay rate with the DC plan and profit sharing.
Carls effective raise since the merger by the totally worthless ALPA?
90% plus a bit!
Epic fail according to Carl!

You know someone is spinning something when they use the word "effective rate."

What about the spin of "Don't worry about that second 3% raise... big things are coming and you'll never see that."

Right? How did that work out?

[QUOTE=sailingfun;1749284]How is any of this germane to the overall discussion?

Now that I've filled my retirement accounts to the 415c limit my effective rate on the 7ER is now $253 an hour.

Don't forget to include your profit sharing in there, too!

Yep, I'm at $275k for the year so far, 88 Driver is full of doo doo. With 5 pay periods to go I'm going to gross over 340k on the year. My highest earning year under C2K was $234k. That had no profit sharing and no DC plan either. I'm finding this board to be more and more worthless, and nothing but a sounding board for the whiners. That's why I don't bother coming here very often. It used to be useful and funny.

Be of good faith, we will wrestle it back, the whiners have a short attention span..

[QUOTE=sailingfun;1749284]
Effective rate :rolleyes:

That whole post of yours stinks of contempt and desperation.

If you are going to react and post here, be relevant and actually intelligent when you write. Otherwise you are just contributing to the increasing amounts of detritus here.

Jet fuel down .80 cents from Feb 2013. Adding $3.2 billion annually to Delta's bottom line. Plus well over $1 billion in bag fees and another $1 billion plus in ticket change fees. All this over and above being part of an oligopoly with powerful pricing power.

How about both sides set aside the past and focus on major gains in every section of our PWA? (Sorry Captain Moak)

Even Charlie Brown can get lucky in this environment.

Jerry