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12-12-2014 | 08:20 AM
#3081
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From: 747-400 Captain
This list is reasonable given past sacrifices and current profitability going forward. I just listened to the full 3 hour Investor Day broadcast. Delta is making so much money it's mind boggling. While putting Billions into airport facilities, aircraft upgrades, etc they paid down 10 Billion in debt in 5 years. They are paying out Billions in dividends while doing stock buy backs. Due to deferred tax benefits, no taxes need to be paid until 2017 and even then it won't be for a full year.
Bottom line, a couple billion toward the pilots is reasonable and sustainable. This amount won't put much of a dent in the Billions Delta will reap in the coming years.
Bottom line, a couple billion toward the pilots is reasonable and sustainable. This amount won't put much of a dent in the Billions Delta will reap in the coming years.
Carl
12-12-2014 | 10:51 AM
#3082
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12-12-2014 | 03:24 PM
#3083
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With regards to the survey - I for one do not have an issue with then releasing the pilot group's "wants" to the company. In the past we have lost negotiating ground when info was released.
That being said - if you want to know what the stats will look like - just go to the DPA site, where they freely publish their survey results..for all 1500 people that participated.
http://delta-pilots.org/storage/docs...%20Results.pdf
That being said - if you want to know what the stats will look like - just go to the DPA site, where they freely publish their survey results..for all 1500 people that participated.
http://delta-pilots.org/storage/docs...%20Results.pdf
12-12-2014 | 04:22 PM
#3084
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From: Captain
With regards to the survey - I for one do not have an issue with then releasing the pilot group's "wants" to the company. In the past we have lost negotiating ground when info was released.
That being said - if you want to know what the stats will look like - just go to the DPA site, where they freely publish their survey results..for all 1500 people that participated.
http://delta-pilots.org/storage/docs...%20Results.pdf
That being said - if you want to know what the stats will look like - just go to the DPA site, where they freely publish their survey results..for all 1500 people that participated.
http://delta-pilots.org/storage/docs...%20Results.pdf
12-16-2014 | 03:35 AM
#3085
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After scope, the one thing the vast majority of our pilots agree on is pay. Our MEC chairman has stated many times he hears us. We want historic gains in our pay.
As line pilots we need to make our voices heard. We need a rock solid foundation on which to build C2015 so we don't wake up to another 4,8,3,3.
That baseline is the Delta pilot hourly rates from May 2004 date of signing. ONE PENNY LESS IS A "NO" VOTE.
The promised historic will be rates much higher than this date of signing, but as we all know and many have pointed out, pay comes in many forms.
These hourly rates are over a decade old.
In this historically profitable environment, there is no excuse not to attain these rates and more. If we fail to speak up and make our voices heard, we will get much less and a trainload of excuses.
Together we can carry the day. Our negotiators cannot fail if 12,000 Delta pilots walk into the room with them each and every session.
Spend 10 minutes a month communicating with your reps. Contacting the negotiating team.
Don't walk by your reps when they do crew room presence. Stop, introduce yourself. Thank them for their service. Then tell them the 2004 hourly rates are the minimum for your yes vote and your expectations are high.
Are you going to ride in the wagon or get out and help pull?
Speaking up will put dollars in your pocket. Improve scope and get you more time off.
Just do it.
Jerry
As line pilots we need to make our voices heard. We need a rock solid foundation on which to build C2015 so we don't wake up to another 4,8,3,3.
That baseline is the Delta pilot hourly rates from May 2004 date of signing. ONE PENNY LESS IS A "NO" VOTE.
The promised historic will be rates much higher than this date of signing, but as we all know and many have pointed out, pay comes in many forms.
These hourly rates are over a decade old.
In this historically profitable environment, there is no excuse not to attain these rates and more. If we fail to speak up and make our voices heard, we will get much less and a trainload of excuses.
Together we can carry the day. Our negotiators cannot fail if 12,000 Delta pilots walk into the room with them each and every session.
Spend 10 minutes a month communicating with your reps. Contacting the negotiating team.
Don't walk by your reps when they do crew room presence. Stop, introduce yourself. Thank them for their service. Then tell them the 2004 hourly rates are the minimum for your yes vote and your expectations are high.
Are you going to ride in the wagon or get out and help pull?
Speaking up will put dollars in your pocket. Improve scope and get you more time off.
Just do it.
Jerry
12-16-2014 | 11:51 PM
#3086
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From: Work
After scope, the one thing the vast majority of our pilots agree on is pay. Our MEC chairman has stated many times he hears us. We want historic gains in our pay.
As line pilots we need to make our voices heard. We need a rock solid foundation on which to build C2015 so we don't wake up to another 4,8,3,3.
That baseline is the Delta pilot hourly rates from May 2004 date of signing. ONE PENNY LESS IS A "NO" VOTE.
The promised historic will be rates much higher than this date of signing, but as we all know and many have pointed out, pay comes in many forms.
These hourly rates are over a decade old.
In this historically profitable environment, there is no excuse not to attain these rates and more. If we fail to speak up and make our voices heard, we will get much less and a trainload of excuses.
Together we can carry the day. Our negotiators cannot fail if 12,000 Delta pilots walk into the room with them each and every session.
Spend 10 minutes a month communicating with your reps. Contacting the negotiating team.
Don't walk by your reps when they do crew room presence. Stop, introduce yourself. Thank them for their service. Then tell them the 2004 hourly rates are the minimum for your yes vote and your expectations are high.
Are you going to ride in the wagon or get out and help pull?
Speaking up will put dollars in your pocket. Improve scope and get you more time off.
Just do it.
Jerry
As line pilots we need to make our voices heard. We need a rock solid foundation on which to build C2015 so we don't wake up to another 4,8,3,3.
That baseline is the Delta pilot hourly rates from May 2004 date of signing. ONE PENNY LESS IS A "NO" VOTE.
The promised historic will be rates much higher than this date of signing, but as we all know and many have pointed out, pay comes in many forms.
These hourly rates are over a decade old.
In this historically profitable environment, there is no excuse not to attain these rates and more. If we fail to speak up and make our voices heard, we will get much less and a trainload of excuses.
Together we can carry the day. Our negotiators cannot fail if 12,000 Delta pilots walk into the room with them each and every session.
Spend 10 minutes a month communicating with your reps. Contacting the negotiating team.
Don't walk by your reps when they do crew room presence. Stop, introduce yourself. Thank them for their service. Then tell them the 2004 hourly rates are the minimum for your yes vote and your expectations are high.
Are you going to ride in the wagon or get out and help pull?
Speaking up will put dollars in your pocket. Improve scope and get you more time off.
Just do it.
Jerry
12-17-2014 | 05:25 AM
#3087
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From: Captain
12-18-2014 | 09:08 PM
#3088
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Makes you part of the problem vs solution
12-28-2014 | 08:13 PM
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Delta C2015
I'm an outsider here, but just curious what you guys hope to gain scope wise? If management came to you with an offer to bring 900's on the property, is there support for that? What if they asked for something in return?
(For context, I hope to join your ranks eventually so more mainline flying is alright by me!)
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(For context, I hope to join your ranks eventually so more mainline flying is alright by me!)
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12-28-2014 | 09:21 PM
#3090
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From: Light Chop
I'm an outsider here, but just curious what you guys hope to gain scope wise? If management came to you with an offer to bring 900's on the property, is there support for that? What if they asked for something in return?
(For context, I hope to join your ranks eventually so more mainline flying is alright by me!)
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(For context, I hope to join your ranks eventually so more mainline flying is alright by me!)
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