Delta TA, the ultimate irony
06-15-2015 | 09:08 PM
#11
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Just changed the mind of a "yes" voting CA over the past two days. No hyperbole, just the facts, unemotionally. It was the Scope that got him. Surprisingly, the Sick and the LCA/OE trip bidding was OK with him. For us "no" voters, this was big. He was an HVC million miler to DALPA.
06-15-2015 | 09:12 PM
#12
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I certainly hope you guys are right. I just chatted with a captain that stated that "this is the best contract in airline history." I asked him if it was better than what we had in 2004 and he could not answer.
If someone has truly researched and understands what all the changes are and votes yes I can respect that but if they just blindly follow a few bullet points then I cannot respect their decision.
If someone has truly researched and understands what all the changes are and votes yes I can respect that but if they just blindly follow a few bullet points then I cannot respect their decision.
If we want this to be voted down, we still have a lot of guys to convince the deal stinks. I wasn't going to go to a roadshow to listen to the sales job, but we all need to turn out on droves or the only topics that will be covered are the two good points of the TA. You know they aren't going to bring up the concessions unless someone in the audience throws them out.
06-15-2015 | 09:16 PM
#13
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Just changed the mind of a "yes" voting CA over the past two days. No hyperbole, just the facts, unemotionally. It was the Scope that got him. Surprisingly, the Sick and the LCA/OE trip bidding was OK with him. For us "no" voters, this was big. He was an HVC million miler to DALPA.
06-15-2015 | 10:41 PM
#14
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From: CA
I ran across 3 captains today that are all giddy about how good the deal is. All three said they didn't care about the LCA trips being pulled. "Shouldn't get paid to do nothing anyways" is what one said. All three said they were glad about the sick leave because it will force the abusers to stop abusing sick time. 2 of them had no clue what a DHS was when I mentioned it. Some of these guys are totally clueless about what they support.
If we want this to be voted down, we still have a lot of guys to convince the deal stinks. I wasn't going to go to a roadshow to listen to the sales job, but we all need to turn out on droves or the only topics that will be covered are the two good points of the TA. You know they aren't going to bring up the concessions unless someone in the audience throws them out.
If we want this to be voted down, we still have a lot of guys to convince the deal stinks. I wasn't going to go to a roadshow to listen to the sales job, but we all need to turn out on droves or the only topics that will be covered are the two good points of the TA. You know they aren't going to bring up the concessions unless someone in the audience throws them out.
06-16-2015 | 01:12 AM
#15
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From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+
I'm a 57 year old captain and voting no. I know many that are deadzoners like me that are fed up and are voting no as well. This is the easiest no vote in my 25 plus years.
06-16-2015 | 03:05 AM
#16
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From: 737 Captain
Delta TA, the ultimate irony
Well I believe it violates hipaa law. But I'm not sure if this can be nullified by agreeing to alternative terms in a CBA.
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06-16-2015 | 04:05 AM
#17
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
I ran across 3 captains today that are all giddy about how good the deal is. All three said they didn't care about the LCA trips being pulled. "Shouldn't get paid to do nothing anyways" is what one said. All three said they were glad about the sick leave because it will force the abusers to stop abusing sick time. 2 of them had no clue what a DHS was when I mentioned it. Some of these guys are totally clueless about what they support.
If we want this to be voted down, we still have a lot of guys to convince the deal stinks. I wasn't going to go to a roadshow to listen to the sales job, but we all need to turn out on droves or the only topics that will be covered are the two good points of the TA. You know they aren't going to bring up the concessions unless someone in the audience throws them out.
If we want this to be voted down, we still have a lot of guys to convince the deal stinks. I wasn't going to go to a roadshow to listen to the sales job, but we all need to turn out on droves or the only topics that will be covered are the two good points of the TA. You know they aren't going to bring up the concessions unless someone in the audience throws them out.
But this is why MEC members who saw the deal as bad shouldn't throw it out to memory rat.
06-16-2015 | 04:08 AM
#18
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From: Light Chop
Just changed the mind of a "yes" voting CA over the past two days. No hyperbole, just the facts, unemotionally. It was the Scope that got him. Surprisingly, the Sick and the LCA/OE trip bidding was OK with him. For us "no" voters, this was big. He was an HVC million miler to DALPA.
But taking away wb flying and letting MD alone decide to sign off on an outsourced Shanghai Delta Air Lines flying WBs for us....
06-16-2015 | 04:41 AM
#19
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From: A330
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