Ok. I'm guilty of starting another thread. But, this one deserves it's own (If it hasn't been created already, FTB.)

I know someone posted the link to this on another thread, and I know it's been out for a while, but I can't find it and don't understand why people aren't talking about it.

I THINK THIS WEBSITE SHOULD BE SENT TO AS MANY DAL PILOTS AS POSSIBLE.

http://www.tafacts.com


It doesn't take long to read through and I've double checked some things I thought were pretty unbelievable and they turned out to be spot on.

It's easy to read bullet point style.

Points like....

Air France/KLM Joint Venture language changed to put company in immediate compliance (after 4 years of non-compliance) with further 1% downward wiggle room (which would take us to nearly 46% EASKs vs currently required 50%).

Under new metric, a DL 757 is equivalent to an Air France A380!

Under the old metric, each Air France A380 required the equivalent of 4.7 DL 757s!

Section 1.E.9 allows unlimited international alter ego using company’s name, brand, logos, and livery with approval from MEC chairman only.

New Profit Sharing moves 20% threshold from $2.5B to $6.0B Pretax Income (PTIX).

At $6B PTIX, Delta will save $350M across all employee groups.

Pilots’ share of decrease is appx. $140M, equivalent to 5.74% paycut.

Other $210M likely taken from other employee groups to fund pilot raises.

With profit sharing backed out, pay raises are 8/.26/3/3. Compounded, 14.86%.

Vacation pay increased to 3:30 but value remains at 3:15 for bidding in PBS.

A pilot will not be allowed to verify any illness to extend the verification triggers. You will only be allowed/required to verify the illness when you hit that trigger. This is worrisome, if you consider that a pilot might have a severe illness during the first 14 days and the gets a head cold on day 15; this basically comes down to timing. The pilot will then need to see a health-care provider to verify the head cold.

Sick changes could very well prematurely pull Delta pilots from the cockpit if they develop a medical situation before AMAS (ALPA Aeromedical) can help them thanks to the medical records going to DHS (Director of Health Services), who is (contractually now) an AME with a duty to report to the FAA. Although it is unclear what his reporting obligations really are based upon the briefing that the MEC received on the issues.

75% of all projected OE trips withheld from FO bidding process.

● New Hire, Transition, and Upgrade

● Up to 75 hours withheld per projected OE event in widebody categories.

Three Quarters of the pilots currently being bought off OE will now fly normal line trips, pushing down everyone below them until an equal number of former lineholders are on reserve.

● This will most likely drastically cut down on number of greenslips.

● Junior FOs will take seniority hit equal to % of total trips withheld for OE.

● Junior CAs may stagnate as senior FOs unable to buddy-bid take the upgrade.

25% of unused sick leave hours below 80 each year essentially paid out as additional disability after DPMA is exhausted. A small step in the right direction. Accrued at one hour per two unused below 80 annually, but then charged two hours for every hour used.



....whoever put this together is VERY knowledgeable about the contract and this TA. It's worth taking the time to read.


Good luck.


NEW TA NOW

 

25% of unused sick leave hours below 80 each year essentially paid out as additional disability after DPMA is exhausted. A small step in the right direction. Accrued at one hour per two unused below 80 annually, but then charged two hours for every hour used.

(Pg. 26-16 of the new TA.)

 

If this were the only change in the sick leave section, I suspect there would have been a reduction in what the company claimed as abuse. This could have been spun as a win by both the company and the negotiators. Both sides of the table failed on this mark.

 

Pin it to the Top!

 

I know the guy who put together the TAFacts website. It's essentially a synthesis of the ChitChat Con List, my Master Concessions List, and the excellent TA Summary that Council 1 put out a few days ago (basically the pro/con list DALPA would have put out if they were being honest). He's continually improving it as suggestions come in on the DL Pilots Against the C2015 TA fb page.

 

Interesting that some of the people that badmouth dALPA for a "sales job" are perfectly OK with the thumbs up/down presented here. Isn't this the same thing?

Thanks for the link NewK.

 

No, For two reasons. This is not official DALPA correspondence. We are all entitled to our opinions and secondly it is mostly a response to the DALPA sales job.


DALPA is only presenting a one sided point of view concerning the TA. What you see here is the lacking counterpoint.

Lets face it, 8 Reps voted No and their voices are not heard at all via any of the official correspondence.

Most importantly this TA was only "Approved to be voted on by the members" and was not recommended by the MEC, so why doesn't all the DALPA correspondence present both the good and the bad?

Even the 14-5 MEC vote on C-12 recommended it.

Scoop

 

Actually heard from the C44 Chmn that they were not selling or spinning. I respectfully submit they may be too close to the problem.

I rode with NewKNow on a deadhead while he read the tafacts.com pages, he speaks for me. This is a bankruptcy contract during incredibly profitable times. Get your orange NO bag tags on!

 

I am getting correspondence from Tom. He voted no.

 

Not only that, but its only after DPMA. DPMA is none of their business! That's a pilot plan to help pilots and its not their concern. How many times are we going to let them throw that in our faces and use it against us?