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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:39 AM
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B-man.....say it aint so!.....dalpa will get the db back....just you wait and see!

Your point of career earnings is spot on.....as we exited BK I floated an idea to the R&I guys about the best way to structure a delta pilots retirement benefit....it involved getting to the maximum extent.. front loaded company contribution to self directed savings.

it was probably not a template that would retrofit....it would have to start with pilot 'zero'.....well, pilot zero is now onboard and we are still stuck with traditionalists thinking.

If this pilot 'group' wanted to be at the head of the class...the pwa would provide the company filling to the 415c ceiling from year one.
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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
How does that help your claim of the stupidity of bigger paying more? The VAST majority of our fleet is smaller than these aircraft and pay less. Again, how do we divorce ourselves from bigger paying more?

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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
You're right. With those SWA scope clauses, they'll never pull up to an Orlando gate with 3 Virgin 747's getting ready to take their passengers to Europe. They'll never "get to do" what we do.

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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
B-man.....say it aint so!.....dalpa will get the db back....just you wait and see!

Your point of career earnings is spot on.....as we exited BK I floated an idea to the R&I guys about the best way to structure a delta pilots retirement benefit....it involved getting to the maximum extent.. front loaded company contribution to self directed savings.

it was probably not a template that would retrofit....it would have to start with pilot 'zero'.....well, pilot zero is now onboard and we are still stuck with traditionalists thinking.

If this pilot 'group' wanted to be at the head of the class...the pwa would provide the company filling to the 415c ceiling from year one.
winner winner (you know the rest)
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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
IMO, EASKs protect us more than the BH language...Hugely.
My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.
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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
How do you eat an elephant, Carl?
I work for Delta, so we eat elephants by entering into an eating joint venture and Delta pilots fight over the elephant scraps.

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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Says Mr 747 captain.
What does that have to do with anything?

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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.
Ahhh neither actually. Before the TA came out, you guys were talking recapture, now it's which turd is better? Come on....
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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
My understanding is that EASK's are better upside protection, worse downside protection. Which one is more appropriate now? You decide.
Incorrect. EASK's provide the better protection for pilots. That's why we fought for EASK's in C2012. It's why the company wants out of it now in favor of block hours.

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Old 06-30-2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Ahhh neither actually. Before the TA came out, you guys were talking recapture, now it's which turd is better? Come on....
Yup. Stockholm Syndrome is a powerful phenomenon.

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