Be ready for it, the Sky won't fall
07-03-2015 | 05:19 AM
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Haha. No conspiracy of course. But timing does matter. The original post is simply to remind pilots not to be alarmed. Ok so instead of 1.8 Billion in operating income this quarter it ended up being 1.7 Billion, for example. Ok yea the company will take a hit. But whatever they report will still be very impressive and not cause to vote yes in some sort of knee jerk panic reaction.
Apply same logic above to RA's latest message in the weekly email. To sum it up, he loves the amicable relationship with pilots but if we vote no, we're dead to him. I guess the honeymoon's over.
Apply same logic above to RA's latest message in the weekly email. To sum it up, he loves the amicable relationship with pilots but if we vote no, we're dead to him. I guess the honeymoon's over.
07-03-2015 | 05:26 AM
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Fine, jaded may have been a poor choice of words. How about battle hardened?...
This is a very healthy company and does not require concessions. It can afford to do better by its pilots...
The point of the thread is to focus on facts and TA language not spin. If this would have been unforeseen the fear-mongering would have been on tilt.
This is a very healthy company and does not require concessions. It can afford to do better by its pilots...
The point of the thread is to focus on facts and TA language not spin. If this would have been unforeseen the fear-mongering would have been on tilt.
I'll stipulate to the fact we're a very healthy company, needing no concessions, that can afford to do better.
And I agree that this needs to be focused on the facts.
We don't really know what the future holds. Some of recent trends are positive, some aren't. The farther out we try to forecast, the more inaccurate we get.
None of which changes the fact that this TA is early, and the normal timeline takes us almost three years from now.
Is that fair?
07-03-2015 | 06:25 AM
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Battled-hardened is fine.
I'll stipulate to the fact we're a very healthy company, needing no concessions, that can afford to do better.
And I agree that this needs to be focused on the facts.
We don't really know what the future holds. Some of recent trends are positive, some aren't. The farther out we try to forecast, the more inaccurate we get.
None of which changes the fact that this TA is early, and the normal timeline takes us almost three years from now.
Is that fair?
I'll stipulate to the fact we're a very healthy company, needing no concessions, that can afford to do better.
And I agree that this needs to be focused on the facts.
We don't really know what the future holds. Some of recent trends are positive, some aren't. The farther out we try to forecast, the more inaccurate we get.
None of which changes the fact that this TA is early, and the normal timeline takes us almost three years from now.
Is that fair?
The future holds a well executed 3-5 year business plan, The further future has a 5+ year plan. Given the track record of this management there will be success. If you are referring to a catastrophic event, lets cross that bridge when we come to it. The profit sharing is an excellent shock absorber in that case if the company fails to make a profit.
07-03-2015 | 06:42 AM
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This is being treating like a no time emergency when we are 6 months early. We are skipping checklists and flying single pilot to a 10 mile final. This is a situation where we need to make some time by voting it down and then expand the team.
Whenever I would get hasty about a purchase my dad would always say "there is no such thing as the last of the good deals". This was pretty common sense simple advice.
Whenever I would get hasty about a purchase my dad would always say "there is no such thing as the last of the good deals". This was pretty common sense simple advice.
07-03-2015 | 07:18 AM
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07-03-2015 | 08:13 AM
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I wasn't there. I can't confirm any of this. But, that's my understanding of the story.
What I wonder about is why would the Company do what a DAPLA executive assistant requested? My guess is we may be missing a detail or two.
Standing by for incoming.
07-03-2015 | 08:18 AM
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