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Chit Chat has rumored new SWA rates posted. [edit I have to convert the numbers]

notEnuf

Our contract does not expire. It becomes amendable on the date agreed, in this case 1/1/2016. The good faith bargaining is not an issue because if we do not want to amend the contract we do not have to bargain. Normally one side or both choose to because they see advantages to amending.

The company can file for NMB mediation and then both sides would be guided and pressured to come to a deal, this takes years in some cases. If it can't be done then the NMB declares an impasse and starts a 30 day cooling off period. After the 30 days self help is allowed, strikes or lockouts. There is never a forced settlement or time limit unless both parties agree to it. The PEB is only by presidential order that may or may not come. The PEB can not force a settlement either but can ratchet up the pressure on both sides. We are under no obligation to change the PWA ever. If we like what we have better than any other offers that is perfectly fine.

My opinion is we will reach a deal with more money, like a real raise on 1/1/2016 or less QOL impact, like leave sick alone or scope or FO schedules. This will end and until then I am comfortable with our current agreement and it's ability to keep our pay rates industry average and our profit sharing the best by far of the industry and better than most companies period. Why change that for concessions?

rube

Yup, they sure are. And we have handy examples of this at other airlines. So easy, even Southwest can do it.

Um, and FedEx, and UPS, and about twenty other airline labor groups at the NMB, all of which are negotiating in good faith.

notEnuf

You think we will go to min guarantee across the board? When, Why?

scambo1

Is or is not an AME an extension of the FAA and required to report to the FAA?

sailingfun

Not unless he is the signing AME on your medical.

LivingTheDream

So you are going to change your vote because you don't "like" someone?

Very sound reasoning. Got it.

LivingTheDream

Not if they were making around $400/hr like they would be if they were getting paid 2004 rates with inflation (inflation is that thing that makes stuff cost more over time).

Also, not if we had lines of time and touching trips, like SWA CURRENTLY has. That alone would create probably 3000 jobs minimum.

As well as MUCH more time off, since under that system, one could easily turn one week into a minimum of 19dys off (a lot more if you have longer trips!)... which is exactly what I did as a new hire, probationary pilot!

Not to mention, SWA has ZERO SL verification and ZERO CPO involvement... ZERO!

Please DALPA, stop "improving" our contracts!

Voted NO, Now 44 Must Go!

Will

What else was RA going to say vote this down and Yes we will give you a better deal. The financial gains of this contract are not worth the QOL of life sacrifices. Never should a union negotiate seniority away I don't care how few it effects.

I will step up to the plate and volunteer my time to rebuild DALPA but refuse to volunteer one minute under a leader who stands in front of its members and tries to sell a contract all while having the police present for his security. Once that didn't work he switched plans and has his goon squad in black polo shirts stand guard at the NY road show. He is a pathetic leader, maybe a nice guy but as the leader of our pilot group he is a failure.

Check Essential

sailing-
You are just wrong.
ALPA may be saying that the company would never do that but there is language in the TA that specifically allows them to do it.

The TA allows Sedgwick or anyone else Delta "designates" to handle the verification process.

It will be a nightmare for any pilot with medical issues.

Sedgwick makes their money by denying claims. Its what they do.

Big corporations don't hire them to manage this stuff because they have a reputation for being generous to employees.

"We're sorry but your evidence of illness is not sufficient." Sick Pay: DENIED.