Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1925035)

I have to go to work. I don't have time to try and look up the NWA and Delta numbers. I can tell you the total cost per pilot in 2014 was 261,000 and in 2004 it was 305,000 at Delta and 234,000 at NWA. I suspect the revenue will be more per pilot today. Keep in mind however in 2004 the cheap part of the list was furloughed at both NWA and Delta.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1924817)

I doubt they would beat us fairly easily on W2. If the forum numbers on profit prove to be true between the PS and higher DC we will be well above them looking at our 737 rates. We have copilots making over 300,000.

Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1924892)

Think about 42 hours and three weeks off for a week of vacation.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1925017)

Edit: Here is SWA's vacation. Nice and better then ours but nothing like posted above. Crew Skeds can also split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period.

First, that product evaluates the pay for the days WITHIN the vacation block, but does not attempt to evaluate the Vacation Overlap pay. While this is a piece of the solution, it’s not complete: within a 7-day block, you will never be paid less than 26.25 TFP (trips pulled or 3.75 TFP/day, whichever is greater), and you’ll never be paid more than 30 hours of flying, plus deadheads and rigs. In practice, about 36 TFP is the most you can possibly get during the 7 day period, and about 32 TFP (i.e. a dense 4-day) is the most you’re likely to encounter
Current averag line at SWA is 12.3 days paying 87 TFP.

Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 1925153)

SF, you're kidding right?

SWA still has lines of time, touching trips, higher vacation pay, ZERO code share/JV, and oh yeah... ZERO SL verification.

But some how we're WAY better... :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1925334)

No, he's not kidding. It's that Delta pilot superiority complex that some hold here. Hard to explain and impossible to justify...but it's sure there by a minority of the true cult members.

Carl

Originally Posted by shoelu (Post 1925325)

I'm Sorry, but your info is incorrect.

Crew Skeds cannot "split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period." unless you want them to. At SWA you have the option to either: drop all pairings touching the vacation, drop only the pairings touching the beginning of the vacation or, drop only the pairings touching the end of the vacation.

My last vacation paid 31 TFP after dropping ALL pairings touching it and gave me 19 consecutive days off. Vacation pulls are routinely 40TFP or better if you know the contract well enough to bid for the maximum credit pulled or incorporate a program called swaptimizer to do it for you.

Current August lines average 97 Trips For Pay across all bases. August lines average 18 days off across all bases at SWA.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1925343)

SWA's scope is so good they are doing 100% of their international widebody flying!

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1925343)

SWA's scope is so good they are doing 100% of their international widebody flying!