SWA vs Delta We Are Not In The Neighborhood
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Indeed, according to the company's filings, Southwest devoted 33.2% of its operating costs to "salaries, wages, and benefits" last year -- a number that grew nearly 8% in comparison to 2013 compensation. That compares to American's labor costs of "approximately 25% of our operating expenses," and Delta's devotion of 24.1% of its operating expenditures to "salaries and related costs" and "profit sharing" in 2014.*
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Indeed, according to the company's filings, Southwest devoted 33.2% of its operating costs to "salaries, wages, and benefits" last year -- a number that grew nearly 8% in comparison to 2013 compensation. That compares to American's labor costs of "approximately 25% of our operating expenses," and Delta's devotion of 24.1% of its operating expenditures to "salaries and related costs" and "profit sharing" in 2014.*
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We keep pointing this out to the die hards gzsg, but it's like talking to a brick wall. W2, not even close to SWA, and they make more in less days worked each month. If their new rumored rates are accurate, their W2's will rival our wibebody captains W2's, and again in less days worked. Come Friday evening, it's back to the drawing board for our "union". We'll see how quickly RA comes back to the table to get our backpacks reinstalled!
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update SWA new rates with actual numbers!
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
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update SWA new rates with actual numbers!
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
Our TA rates seem to exceed the above:
Jan 16 737-800 $249
-900 $251
Jan 17 -800 $257
-900 $258
Jan 18 -800 $264
-900 $266
Do they get PS?
Was hoping they would have gotten much more.
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Our TA rates do exceed their rates, barely. Their "retirement" is one of their few week areas, they get a match of 9.3 percent on their 401K, and about 9.5 percent profit sharing. Where they far exceed us Army is with their rigs, i.e. vacation paid around six, and that is in addition to trips touching dropped. Like I said, at the end of the day, rates are only a part of the overall equation. The W2 is the equalizer, and their W2 is superior to ours.
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update SWA new rates with actual numbers!
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
These are the TFP rates. Multiply by 1.1313 for the hourly conversion to our rates.
Now 189
Signing 208 = 235.3
Jan 2016 216.32 = 244.75
Jan 2017 223.0 = 252.3
Jan2018 229.50 = 259.6
Jan2019 234.00 = 264
Just rumored at this point, but some buds at my guard unit think they may be accurate. Even without this raise, they still beat us fairly easily on W2, with less days worked Sailing...
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