SWA vs Delta We Are Not In The Neighborhood
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I have to go to work. I don't have time to try and look up the NWA and Delta numbers. I can tell you the total cost per pilot in 2014 was 261,000 and in 2004 it was 305,000 at Delta and 234,000 at NWA. I suspect the revenue will be more per pilot today. Keep in mind however in 2004 the cheap part of the list was furloughed at both NWA and Delta.
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Edit: Here is SWA's vacation. Nice and better then ours but nothing like posted above. Crew Skeds can also split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period.
First, that product evaluates the pay for the days WITHIN the vacation block, but does not attempt to evaluate the Vacation Overlap pay. While this is a piece of the solution, it’s not complete: within a 7-day block, you will never be paid less than 26.25 TFP (trips pulled or 3.75 TFP/day, whichever is greater), and you’ll never be paid more than 30 hours of flying, plus deadheads and rigs. In practice, about 36 TFP is the most you can possibly get during the 7 day period, and about 32 TFP (i.e. a dense 4-day) is the most you’re likely to encounter
Current averag line at SWA is 12.3 days paying 87 TFP.
First, that product evaluates the pay for the days WITHIN the vacation block, but does not attempt to evaluate the Vacation Overlap pay. While this is a piece of the solution, it’s not complete: within a 7-day block, you will never be paid less than 26.25 TFP (trips pulled or 3.75 TFP/day, whichever is greater), and you’ll never be paid more than 30 hours of flying, plus deadheads and rigs. In practice, about 36 TFP is the most you can possibly get during the 7 day period, and about 32 TFP (i.e. a dense 4-day) is the most you’re likely to encounter
Current averag line at SWA is 12.3 days paying 87 TFP.
Crew Skeds cannot "split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period." unless you want them to. At SWA you have the option to either: drop all pairings touching the vacation, drop only the pairings touching the beginning of the vacation or, drop only the pairings touching the end of the vacation.
My last vacation paid 31 TFP after dropping ALL pairings touching it and gave me 19 consecutive days off. Vacation pulls are routinely 40TFP or better if you know the contract well enough to bid for the maximum credit pulled or incorporate a program called swaptimizer to do it for you.
Current August lines average 97 Trips For Pay across all bases. August lines average 18 days off across all bases at SWA.
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SWA's scope is so good they are doing 100% of their international widebody flying!
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I'm Sorry, but your info is incorrect.
Crew Skeds cannot "split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period." unless you want them to. At SWA you have the option to either: drop all pairings touching the vacation, drop only the pairings touching the beginning of the vacation or, drop only the pairings touching the end of the vacation.
My last vacation paid 31 TFP after dropping ALL pairings touching it and gave me 19 consecutive days off. Vacation pulls are routinely 40TFP or better if you know the contract well enough to bid for the maximum credit pulled or incorporate a program called swaptimizer to do it for you.
Current August lines average 97 Trips For Pay across all bases. August lines average 18 days off across all bases at SWA.
Crew Skeds cannot "split trips touching vacations to keep you working the part outside the vacation period." unless you want them to. At SWA you have the option to either: drop all pairings touching the vacation, drop only the pairings touching the beginning of the vacation or, drop only the pairings touching the end of the vacation.
My last vacation paid 31 TFP after dropping ALL pairings touching it and gave me 19 consecutive days off. Vacation pulls are routinely 40TFP or better if you know the contract well enough to bid for the maximum credit pulled or incorporate a program called swaptimizer to do it for you.
Current August lines average 97 Trips For Pay across all bases. August lines average 18 days off across all bases at SWA.
Carl
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