SWA vs Delta We Are Not In The Neighborhood
 

Indeed, according to the company's filings, Southwest devoted 33.2% of its operating costs to "salaries, wages, and benefits" last year -- a number that grew nearly 8% in comparison to 2013 compensation. That compares to American's labor costs of "approximately 25% of our operating expenses," and Delta's devotion of 24.1% of its operating expenditures to "salaries and related costs" and "profit sharing" in 2014.*

We keep pointing this out to the die hards gzsg, but it's like talking to a brick wall. W2, not even close to SWA, and they make more in less days worked each month. If their new rumored rates are accurate, their W2's will rival our wibebody captains W2's, and again in less days worked. Come Friday evening, it's back to the drawing board for our "union". We'll see how quickly RA comes back to the table to get our backpacks reinstalled!

What are the rumored rates?

Our TA rates seem to exceed the above:

Jan 16 737-800 $249
-900 $251
Jan 17 -800 $257
-900 $258
Jan 18 -800 $264
-900 $266

Do they get PS?

Was hoping they would have gotten much more.

Our TA rates do exceed their rates, barely. Their "retirement" is one of their few week areas, they get a match of 9.3 percent on their 401K, and about 9.5 percent profit sharing. Where they far exceed us Army is with their rigs, i.e. vacation paid around six, and that is in addition to trips touching dropped. Like I said, at the end of the day, rates are only a part of the overall equation. The W2 is the equalizer, and their W2 is superior to ours.

Do you happen to have the FO rates?
If you don't want to post them can you PM me?

I doubt they would beat us fairly easily on W2. If the forum numbers on profit prove to be true between the PS and higher DC we will be well above them looking at our 737 rates. We have copilots making over 300,000.

Sorry, I don't

I haven't heard any numbers yet. Plenty of talk about "good" codeshare/interline. Excited about that...