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BobZ 07-11-2015 10:58 AM

FL....there has been a lot of painting into corners in this process. Im trying to think of a more poorly executed process for a ta....but am drawing a blank.

The timeline compression, heavy handed and threatening communications, overt threats of dire economic predictions and contingent aircraft arrivals....

IDK about anyone else...but the entire flavor of this soup has "danger Will Robinson!!" alarms going off in my head.

From my read of the tea leaves...agendas outside of this ta...and probably not in our best, let alone self interest, were driving events.

What happens now is anyones guess.....but it should be interesting to watch.:)

John Carr 07-11-2015 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1927169)
Having buyers remorse over that YES vote tsquare? You seem angrier than usual.

Carl

Man, are there really that many guys on here using dual log ins and alternate usernames?

Mods need to get crackin', it's a TOS violation......

Mesabah 07-11-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1927210)
Yeah and I guess the rejection of cost neutral :rolleyes: contract had nothing to do with it at all?

??? The market is forward looking. I have no idea how the contract rejection will play out with the pilot group, let alone tell you how it will have an effect on earnings. UAL, DAL, AAL, LUV, all jumped 4% when UAL released earnings, nothing happened when the contract was rejected, where are people seeing this stock move, it's missing on Thinkorswim. :confused:

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snackysmores 07-11-2015 11:40 AM

Thanks for holding the line guys, still can't believe over 3000 pilots voted yes though

Raging white 07-11-2015 01:20 PM

Am I the only one to notice the new paradigm (thanks MD) with respect to airline pilots is social media? MD called it a very "vocal minority". When the rumors of the TA came out (and were dead on balls accurate) the DALPA regulars came on to mock "internet rumors".
The empirical data points to a fairly unified group against the current DALPA personalities. YMMV

badflaps 07-11-2015 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1927281)
Man, are there really that many guys on here using dual log ins and alternate usernames?

Mods need to get crackin', it's a TOS violation......

The original "T Square" was last seen hitch-hiking to Oregon, never to be heard from again. The name is used as a friendly greeting... Sorta like "Kemo-Sabe."

Flying Elvis 07-11-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 1927305)
Thanks for holding the line guys, still can't believe over 3000 pilots voted yes though

Let's make a WAG that 20% of the pilots are going to vote "No" no matter what.

Another 20% will vote "Yes" to anything put in front of them.

This is pretty typical for just about any election on any matter, and I'll bet it was pretty close to reality in this case.

The battle was with the middle 60%. And 75% of those voted no.

The 1980 and 2008 Presidential elections, both decided with only 60% margins among the center of the electorate, were called "landslides." Both of those were near 60% voter participation.

One promise that the MEC kept, even if unintentionally, is the "historic" moniker. This TA was historic in how badly it failed.


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