It's Decisive, Thankfully
07-10-2015 | 02:10 PM
#12
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
Very classy move and well put, Sink.
I'm not celebrating anything other than finally taking down the sales machine. Now the hard work of cleaning up this mess begins, though. And you know the unionoids are going to fight to hang on to their unelected positions...
I'm not celebrating anything other than finally taking down the sales machine. Now the hard work of cleaning up this mess begins, though. And you know the unionoids are going to fight to hang on to their unelected positions...
07-10-2015 | 02:17 PM
#13
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From: LAX ERA
07-10-2015 | 02:25 PM
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From: Dismayed
Classy Sink, classy!
The NO camp didn't have a plan because we aren't in charge directly, we rely on our elected representatives. My personal plan involves waiting for the company to approach us, with an open checkbook since they need the profit sharing give as well as help solving their self-inflicted staffing problem.
The NC should have walked away a couple of times, but they were blinded by the "speed" of the negotiations; too close to the problem to recognize they were getting steam rolled.
I was convinced that this would pass because of the sales machine that DALPA runs. There was a plethora of yes slanted information mail bombed into our boxes and any attempt at scrappy grass roots opposition was met with stiff resistance by the MEC admin types. I am so glad I was wrong.
The FB censorship during the open MEC meeting sure backfired on them and let's face it, the PEB screaming spelled the beginning of the end. Well done everyone, but now it's time to get to work!
The NO camp didn't have a plan because we aren't in charge directly, we rely on our elected representatives. My personal plan involves waiting for the company to approach us, with an open checkbook since they need the profit sharing give as well as help solving their self-inflicted staffing problem.
The NC should have walked away a couple of times, but they were blinded by the "speed" of the negotiations; too close to the problem to recognize they were getting steam rolled.
I was convinced that this would pass because of the sales machine that DALPA runs. There was a plethora of yes slanted information mail bombed into our boxes and any attempt at scrappy grass roots opposition was met with stiff resistance by the MEC admin types. I am so glad I was wrong.
The FB censorship during the open MEC meeting sure backfired on them and let's face it, the PEB screaming spelled the beginning of the end. Well done everyone, but now it's time to get to work!
07-10-2015 | 02:34 PM
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Classy Sink, classy!
The NO camp didn't have a plan because we aren't in charge directly, we rely on our elected representatives. My personal plan involves waiting for the company to approach us, with an open checkbook since they need the profit sharing give as well as help solving their self-inflicted staffing problem.
The NC should have walked away a couple of times, but they were blinded by the "speed" of the negotiations; too close to the problem to recognize they were getting steam rolled.
I was convinced that this would pass because of the sales machine that DALPA runs. There was a plethora of yes slanted information mail bombed into our boxes and any attempt at scrappy grass roots opposition was met with stiff resistance by the MEC admin types. I am so glad I was wrong.
The FB censorship during the open MEC meeting sure backfired on them and let's face it, the PEB screaming spelled the beginning of the end. Well done everyone, but now it's time to get to work!
The NO camp didn't have a plan because we aren't in charge directly, we rely on our elected representatives. My personal plan involves waiting for the company to approach us, with an open checkbook since they need the profit sharing give as well as help solving their self-inflicted staffing problem.
The NC should have walked away a couple of times, but they were blinded by the "speed" of the negotiations; too close to the problem to recognize they were getting steam rolled.
I was convinced that this would pass because of the sales machine that DALPA runs. There was a plethora of yes slanted information mail bombed into our boxes and any attempt at scrappy grass roots opposition was met with stiff resistance by the MEC admin types. I am so glad I was wrong.
The FB censorship during the open MEC meeting sure backfired on them and let's face it, the PEB screaming spelled the beginning of the end. Well done everyone, but now it's time to get to work!
One interesting thing to think about, what if the "no" side (or even pro/con side) had spent 1.75 million dollars (with pretty charts!) and controlled the roadshows with full access to everywhere including crew lounges and pilot email list to get their side of the story out.
The failure rate would have been much, much higher (methinks 90% to 10%). It's absolutely astounding this failed by as high of a margin as it did given the unlevel playing field and the army of guys paid to sell this. Fortunately the pilot group in the end recognized this 1975 Ford Pinto with a bent cam shaft wasn't the 2015 Corvette it was being sold as.
07-10-2015 | 02:57 PM
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Though I dissagree with Sink, I do credit him for his consolatory words.
One interesting thing to think about, what if the "no" side (or even pro/con side) had spent 1.75 million dollars (with pretty charts!) and controlled the roadshows with full access to everywhere including crew lounges and getting chief pilots offices to remove anyone with a NO position paper and pilot email list to get their side of the story out.
The failure rate would have been much, much higher (methinks 90% to 10%). It's absolutely astounding this failed by as high of a margin as it did given the unlevel playing field and the army of guys paid to sell this. Fortunately the pilot group in the end recognized this 1975 Ford Pinto with a bent cam shaft wasn't the 2015 Corvette it was being sold as.
One interesting thing to think about, what if the "no" side (or even pro/con side) had spent 1.75 million dollars (with pretty charts!) and controlled the roadshows with full access to everywhere including crew lounges and getting chief pilots offices to remove anyone with a NO position paper and pilot email list to get their side of the story out.
The failure rate would have been much, much higher (methinks 90% to 10%). It's absolutely astounding this failed by as high of a margin as it did given the unlevel playing field and the army of guys paid to sell this. Fortunately the pilot group in the end recognized this 1975 Ford Pinto with a bent cam shaft wasn't the 2015 Corvette it was being sold as.
Carl
