I do care about whether the union unravels, yes, but not for the reason you think. I want the people who are most effective. I do take issue with character assassination of a couple of guys not running, because it's unwarranted, but otherwise I have no job to protect, no FPL interest, and I don't see anyone in any position in the union that can't stand a trip on the line. I've been on the record many times as wanting term-limits. This is probably what's driving a certain other frequent poster bat-$hit crazy, as he tries to portray me as being on the administration, on FPL, etc.

Most of all, I take issue in this specific thread, where the OP hasn't been clear about their political ambitions, and is going cray-cray on others, with no discernable plan of their own.

As far as the majority getting their way, I'm 100% comfortable with it. I don't expect the pilots to have a plan, but I do expect one from the lanyard manufacturers.

You're right on one point: I need to relax, and do something else. Have a great week-end.

 

Simple yet to the point. This is the next step.

 

Completely agree. But the best NFL teams have been produced by both evolution and revolution. Our talent pool is so deep here, we could do either.

Carl

 

Yet that's exactly what you did to your fellow pilots Sink r8. You were a paid politician whose purpose was to hide among us and spread a message of fear, cynicism and deceit. What you did will never be forgotten. The rest of us honest people will clean this up.

Carl

 

You know Packrat, with your prediction abilities, you should probably just listen for a while:


Carl

 

How does MD not resign? You told people to follow you. You threatened people to follow you. And they still refused to follow you. How then in a month can you say follow me again?

 

You can't.............

But any plan is better than no plan.

 

That's what concerns me about this process. I could swear I heard or inferred from leadership that there was no plan B. No plan survives first contact and any worthy Admiral (or General) has contingency plans.

This is going to take time to sort out. The fact that the company didn't have a response for the media when asked is telling.

The MEC is in (or should be) chaos, dogs and cats sleeping together - real wrath of God stuff. Where do they go? Donated must resign, this was a vote of no confidence. His Admin has to be cleaned out and the reps take over. C44 will see some changes but recalls are futile this close to the election cycle.

We need to take a deep breath, wind the clock and come up with our own plans. If we feel strongly about them, communicate them and start to build a path. just my 2¢.

 

Having no Plan B was a deliberate thing.
Developing Plan B was supposed to be Harwood's job.

But he and Hanson were the architects of the fear campaign.
Having "no alternative" to ratification was the heart of that strategy.

The whole "Anderson will be mad and never speak to us again" and "the NMB will put us on ice for years" thing came right from our so called "Strategic Planning" Committee.

 

Not surprised. Arrogance at its best.

Having said that, those two guys should be shown the door. Thanked for their service but firmly shown the door.