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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:17 PM
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First, let me say I've never been prouder of my Delta brothers and sisters than I am right now. To those who weren't blinded by a shiny nickel and a pocket full of lies that would have harmed every airline pilot in the USA for years to come...to those who stood up to the bully's and held the line to reverse the degradation of this industry...I solute you. Well Done!!!

This TA was an insult and embarrassment to every single Delta pilot. Leading up to and during the bankruptcy proceedings pilots everywhere were thoroughly raped. None the less, soon after, the pilots were offered and bought into a proposition put forth by management: "If you help rebuild this airline to profitability you will be rewarded". Clearly that was all lies. The shear arrogance of those in management that came up with such a slap in the face proposal while being enriched with unseemly amounts of money from Delta....DISGUSTING! Anderson has amassed over a hundred million $$$ in stock in his short time at Delta. Bastian is buying multi million dollar homes in the French Riviera. Delta Air Lines | Ritz-Carlton | Riviera Beach Blowing 6 BILLION while throwing the families that built this airline back to it's leading position among all US carriers under the bus...Repugnant!

To the pieces of **** from our union that were supposed to represent us but instead got in our face, lying and selling fear... you are a detestable aberration to this industry.

Forget the meaningless feel good mission statements put out by corporate. Clearly, actions speak louder than words. We now recognize the new Delta Mission statement:

"Our mission is to keep the airline flying long enough to gain obscene retirement bonuses for the current executive management team, while continuing to rape and pillage contracts of those who actually move the airplanes every day... we believe bankruptcy is a permanent reset no matter how many BILLIONS of dollars we make. We have no intention of sharing the piles of money coming in. Constructive engagement was established for only one benefit...OURS! Suck it!"

The pilots of Delta Air Lines deserve more. We will no longer live in fear. We will replace those who betray us. We will make this a career worth having, including more time at home with our families, with more pay (no more productivity gives...this turnip is bled dry!). We will fight to return work rules lost during bankruptcy.

Lastly,

Shinick, Harwood, Endler, Cook, Hamilton, Gomez, Nestor, Gaddis, Worrall, Manilla, Saltzman, Heck, Riesgo, Prato, Mason, Voigts, Costo, Marino, Hazzard, Wolf, Moore, Weistroffer, Fries, Gerst, Shagena, McClaren, Sciaroni, McCollum, Saia, Innerbichler, Gribbin, McDonald, Nevins, Tarves, Dicks, Spain, Stropleand, and any of the other lying **** pushers (including P2P guys), you can go to he11! You failed to represent. You carried managements water and now every single one of you needs to go. Watching your arrogance throughout this misguided TA towards the membership you were supposed to serve has put a permanent black mark on this history of this union. Leave and never step foot into a representative position again. You have shown through your actions you are devoid of the character and qualities we expect from our leadership. No more FPL or cushy schedule at HQ. Go or be removed!

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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:24 PM
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You said it much more eloquently than I ever could.

Great post.

Thank you!!
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MtEverest
Shinick, Harwood, Endler, Cook, Hamilton, Gomez, Nestor, Gaddis, Worrall, Manilla, Saltzman, Heck, Riesgo, Prato, Mason, Voigts, Costo, Marino, Hazzard, Wolf, Moore, Weistroffer, Fries, Gerst, Shagena, McClaren, Sciaroni, McCollum, Saia, Innerbichler, Gribbin, McDonald, Nevins, Tarves, Dicks, Spain, Stropleand, and any of the other lying **** pushers (including P2P guys), you can go to he11! You failed to represent. You carried managements water and now every single one of you needs to go. Watching your arrogance throughout this misguided TA towards the membership you were supposed to serve has put a permanent black mark on this history of this union. Leave and never step foot into a representative position again. You have shown through your actions you are devoid of the character and qualities we expect from our leadership. No more FPL or cushy schedule at HQ. Go or be removed!
I know you said you're thinking about running for office, probably not as MtEverest.

I know several of these guys personally. I'm not in this because I want any individual to be in power, get in power, or emain in power. Only respect for the process matters. But I will say this: if you can represent your council as well as Schinnick, Nevins, Gribbin and Tarves represented New York, that council will be in great shape. I also have a lot of respect for Marino. I will vote for him again in a New York Minute. If anything, I think he'd make a great F/O rep, and finally get to vote.
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MtEverest
Shinick, Harwood, Endler, Cook, Hamilton, Gomez, Nestor, Gaddis, Worrall, Manilla, Saltzman, Heck, Riesgo, Prato, Mason, Voigts, Costo, Marino, Hazzard, Wolf, Moore, Weistroffer, Fries, Gerst, Shagena, McClaren, Sciaroni, McCollum, Saia, Innerbichler, Gribbin, McDonald, Nevins, Tarves, Dicks, Spain, Stropleand, and any of the other lying **** pushers (including P2P guys)

Leave and never step foot into a representative position again....Go or be removed!
Echoed!

French Riviera ≠ Riviera Beach, FL but excellent point nonetheless and a tacky faux pas to buy big in the face of labor negotiations
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I know you said you're thinking about running for office, probably not as MtEverest.

I know several of these guys personally. I'm not in this because I want any individuals to be in power, get in power, or emain in power. Only respect for the process matters. But I will say this: if you can represent your council as well as Schinnick, Nevins, Gribbin and Tarves represented New York, that council will be in great shape.
I categorically disagree with your statement above. Take Schinnick for example. His flip/arrogant attitude towards the membership and willingness to work as a conduit on behalf of DALPA/Management (who have become one and the same), broadcasting bogus info did nothing but muddy the waters for those who were only seeking the truth. If I run and win, I hope to never be anything like Schinnick! He represents the problem with the ALPA of today.
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cubdrick
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French Riviera ≠ Riviera Beach, FL but excellent point nonetheless and a tacky faux pas to buy big in the face of labor negotiations
Noted. I'm guessing there won't be many Delta pilots purchasing Ritz Carlton properties in France or Florida. Certainly not while trying to squeeze the milkman for less pay while demanding full cream instead of half and half.
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I know you said you're thinking about running for office, probably not as MtEverest.

I know several of these guys personally. I'm not in this because I want any individual to be in power, get in power, or emain in power. Only respect for the process matters. But I will say this: if you can represent your council as well as Schinnick, Nevins, Gribbin and Tarves represented New York, that council will be in great shape. I also have a lot of respect for Marino. I will vote for him again in a New York Minute. If anything, I think he'd make a great F/O rep, and finally get to vote.
His entire list is correct Sink r8. These guys have dishonored themselves by their behavior in this. Social media will ensure their roles in this are never forgotten and they will never serve in this Union again. Ever.

The fact that you defend these guys is not surprising to me, but man are you ever wrecking your screen name.

Sink is sunk.

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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MtEverest
I categorically disagree with your statement above. Take Schinnick for example. His flip/arrogant attitude towards the membership and willingness to work as a conduit on behalf DALPA/Management (who have become one and the same), broadcasting bogus info did nothing but muddy the waters of those who were only seeking the truth. If I run and win, I hope to never be anything like Schinnick! He represents the problem with ALPA of today.
You run on your record, and you let theirs speak for itself.

I don't know if you're a New York pilot, but I think they represented us faithfully. I have no sacred relics to protect here, but these guys you're throwing under the bus aren't running. If someone is better than someone else for the Delta pilots, they should win. I see you're already working on your campaign. I respectfully submit being a sore winner isn't a great starting point.

What council are you running in?
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
You run on your record, and you let theirs speak for itself.

I don't know if you're a New York pilot, but I think they represented us faithfully. I have no sacred relics to protect here, but these guys you're throwing under the bus aren't running. If someone is better than someone else for the Delta pilots, they should win. I see you're already working on your campaign. I respectfully submit being a sore winner isn't a great starting point.

What council are you running in?
Has nothing to do with a campaign but I understand why a guy like you might think that. I don't mind flying. If I run I will sign a manifesto that will give 100% transparency if/when I spend dues dollars and if I ever were to take FPL I would note exactly how/why. The books will be open.

What would you like me to do, create a false narrative about what went down with this TA to let guys off the hook? I don't think so. The past ten years ALPA has done everything in their power to remove accountability (think hidden survey results, think barriers to entry regarding DALPA finances and how dues money is spent, think shutting down the DALPA message board...which incidentally blew up in their face when venues were created that they could not control). People need to be held accountable and results need to be measured. Without that there is really no reason to have a union.
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Old 07-10-2015 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
I know you said you're thinking about running for office, probably not as MtEverest.

I know several of these guys personally. I'm not in this because I want any individual to be in power, get in power, or emain in power. Only respect for the process matters. But I will say this: if you can represent your council as well as Schinnick, Nevins, Gribbin and Tarves represented New York, that council will be in great shape. I also have a lot of respect for Marino. I will vote for him again in a New York Minute. If anything, I think he'd make a great F/O rep, and finally get to vote.
Marino openly defied both the Captain/First Officer reps on a regular basis during memrat. He didn't respect the reps or the pilots they represent.


Time to go!
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