Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1933539)

The social media aspect is a perfect study of the generational differences. DALPA still doesn't get it. Some of the baby boomers are getting it.

Information is immediate. Posts, emails, tweets, etc. are forever. Communication is two way, three way and more.

DALPA's entire effort to present the TA was based on old methods of information distribution. Old, expensive forms of communication. The old forms of information distribution were appropriate for most baby boomers. These would be mailers, flyers in v-files, email, lounge visits, and roadshows. They thought they were being really progressive using email.

I think most of us are in agreement that the P2P effort was a disaster.

Younger pilots went to Facebook, ChitChat, APC and Twitter. They read the actual contract language at the DALPA website. With the exception of the TA contract language the only other effort was the Delta MEC Comm Facebook page. This was heavily censored. When it wasn't censored, the DALPA representatives acted in a offensive manner. That didn't go over well. Elsewhere there was an information vacuum or a one way dialogue.

The promised on line roadshow never appeared. DALPA's excuse was they thought it would be edited in a negative way.

Bender, you are a really good example. This why I quoted you. You have stated a number of times that you can't be bothered to visit Facebook. You hold it in distain. That's fine. I do, too. But, I made the effort and I learned a lot. You missed a lot of information. DALPA can't afford to miss this kind of communication. They need to get up to speed and fast.

In the end, they couldn't sell something that was so deficient using any form of communication. The truth came out. Now there is a robust communications network outside of the control of DALPA. That's going to be a problem for DALPA going forward forever. They had better get their act together, fast.

Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 1933702)

Ok, I don't have FB but I occasionally watch Ellen. I'm hip.

Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1933783)

You are fast on the road to hell. Next thing, you will be watching the Kardashians.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez (Post 1932918)

Baby Boomers didn't care about money until they started reaching retirement age either Einstein. You know, free love and all that hippy dippy stuff. Nothing new at all to see here. Boomers were just as lazy when they were younger too.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1933020)

I think our biggest weakness has been what I call a "Tribal Squadron" mentality. Too often, our MEC administration's have been led by military types that see the need to surround themselves with like-minded minions. Marines surrounding themselves with other Marines, etc. I don't have military experience, only civilian. In my business life, I've been mentored by fantastic executives who taught me to resist building a team of clones from the same tribe as you. It's really easy to do, and the single biggest mistake you can make.

I think the upcoming generation will have a higher percentage of civilian types, and maybe (just maybe) they won't possess as much of this tribal squadron mentality. There are certainly plenty of military guys that reject the tribal squadron mentality, but unfortunately our recent leadership has been just the opposite. I have huge hopes for this new generation.

Carl

Originally Posted by 300SMK (Post 1934804)

This is spot on. The military veterans are changing as well. Most are combat veterans and have seen more than their share of group think, stupid orders and dirty politics. Combat hones critical thinking skills because the environment is seldom predictabke. There will be a huge difference between a Navy Hornet driver with three or four deployments to the ME leaving at 12 years vs the career peacetime-- win the war carrying one bomb-- type guy that had to master politics above all else.

Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 1934829)

True. The Hornet driver still can't hit the target with many bombs, but he CAN land on the boat!:p;):D Sorry....just couldn't resist.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 1934598)

But this generation is better connected and just as aware of their ability to advocate. The group is collectively getting younger every day. Y2K, we crossed that "bridge" when these guys were teenagers, time to move on or get left behind.