The settlement has no changes to the existing contract language.

As usual, you make incredible unsubstantiated allegations.

The pilots wanted the grievance settlement handled separate from contract negotiations (the right call) and the company's noncompliance was resolved for $30,000,000. A settlement which we believe is the third largest in the Association's history and the largest on a scope grievance.

The matter of the scope grievance is resolved. The contract language remains in force and is currently in compliance on an EASK basis, meaning Delta is flying at least 48.5% of the Bundle 1 EASK. If the company goes out of compliance a cure period will begin 31 March 2016 and a grievance could be filed if a violation is documented 31 March 2017.

... and while we are on the topic of contract enforcement, recall that Tim Caplinger, interim leader of the DPA, is quoted as saying "“It’s completely optional for the company to comply with it if there’s no penalty for going out of compliance...” It is as if he is unaware of the Railway Labor Act.

Delta Strikes Pilot Deal to Keep Jobs From Outsourcing to Virgin - Bloomberg Business

 

Measurement window ends 31 March 2016. Then there is a cure period which would end 31 March 2017.

 

See reply to Carl above.

 

It is not codeshare. DPJ does not fly Delta code. Nor are DPJ flying any code, since these are not scheduled airlines.

DPJ is limited to 19 seats. Based on the response to the E190, Delta pilots are not that interested in flying airplanes with 90 to 100 seats in them.

For the record, I think anything branded as Delta should be flown by Delta pilots but that's my opinion which apparently is a minority view.

Tom Dilbeck

 

That's a bunch of garbage. Pilots don't buy airplanes.

You just don't get why the TA failed, do you? You have obviously gone all-in with the current regime. I just hope you don't do more damage than you already have with your disingenuous spin before you are purged when a new administration takes over.

 

Snowdawg,

Carl made a similar post a few weeks ago. Wonder who came up with the idea of basing penalties off of profitability? Seems to be a common idea in some parts.

My semi-educated guess is that Delta lost money on noncompliance. The JV (there were a lot of news stories on it at the time it was created which described it in general terms) is a revenue sharing arrangement. So lets say you and I started a business, agreeing to share the work and the income 50/50. But, after three years you discovered that you had been doing most of the work. Would you not them demand more of the money that you earned?

Generally speaking, that is what happened. The Europeans could not get out of the European market. They ended up doing more than their half and Delta had to pay AF/KLM/AZ for the extra work they did.

Delta looked at the market and decided it better to send their jets to places other than Europe ... and took the hit for diverting their labor away from a bad market towards a better market.

If you have information that the AF/KLM/AZ JV made a profit while in deficit ... please post your source. That data is not released that I've ever seen ... but my instincts tell me if there were money to be made in Europe Delta would have gone there and made it. Our network guys are some of the best on the planet at chasing down a buck, euro, yen .... etc.

 

Nobody fought harder to bring that flying to Delta than I. Here on APC & on Chit Chat it was called a "B Scale" even though it paid $15 an hour more than the highest 747 rate pre-merger and more than the 7ER left seat prior to C2012.

Overall, it did not seem pilots had much enthusiasm for the type. Even among guys I worked with on the Compass resolutions.

... and I will continue to work for improved scope & more flying for Delta pilots until "purged" as you say.

 

OK, I wasn't there, but are you telling me that 2008 747A pay was at $162/hr?

If that's true, it was wrong then and no matter where you stand on this TA, it's nothing I want to compare any of our future pay rates against... A 190B 12yr shouldn't be that low.

 

1/1/2011 747 A $186.46
1/1/2018 E190 A $200.14

Yes, seven years is a difference and cost of living has increased, but the 747 is a heck of a lot more airplane.

My concerns are more in line with Delta pilots doing Delta flying. Scope has to be engineered for worst case scenarios and in a worst case, those E190's would be far preferable to furlough.

 

The union forgave the company for being out of compliance for 2013 and 2014. Everything before 31 March 2015 was forgiven. So the three year measurement window just started again. Read the JV settlement email that the union sent out. I copied the paragraph in question for the first post of this thread.