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Old 07-27-2015 | 04:52 PM
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Here is a paragraph from the JV settlement email:


Since April 2012-April 2014 occur in both measurement periods, damages would be calculated only once for each year resulting in four distinct years of damages. As part of the settlement agreement, the $30 million paid by the Company cures the damages for those four years and therefore the Company would be considered to have been in minimum compliance for any future measurements that include those years. Using the 2013-16 measurement period, for example, would mean that the years April 2013-2014 and April 2014-2015 would have been treated as if they were in minimum compliance at 48.5% of the EASKs and any shortfall in the April 2015-2016 period would be subject to damages in any future grievance.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Is 2018 the earliest we can grieve again or 2019? Looks like our negotiators got schooled big time by the company on this one.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 05:01 PM
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As part of the settlement agreement, the $30 million paid by the Company cures the damages for those four years and therefore the Company would be considered to have been in minimum compliance for any future measurements that include those years.
O M G

Just when you thought DALPA couldn't possibly exhibit any more incompetence.

Guys, we are getting ass pounded by the folks we're paying to protect us. When is enough, enough?
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Old 07-27-2015 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
Is 2018 the earliest we can grieve again or 2019? Looks like our negotiators got schooled big time by the company on this one.
No. It looks like they delayed sending us the email as their final coup d' grace...

I do not understand how played we have been by our union...why??
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Old 07-27-2015 | 05:15 PM
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If this doesn't get enough cards for the DPA nothing will.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 05:27 PM
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well....if we are reading this correctly....and you go on the assumption they had full confidence the ta would pass...this makes perfect sense. the future non compliance would have been obe and so there would have been no need to except non compliance over the next 3 years.

this is so typical of the organizations inability to be proactive in accommodating anything they institutionally have determined 'cant happen'.

it may also explain the vehemence with which opposition to the ta was met.....as those inside realized a rejection would fully illuminate to all what fools they had been played for by management.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
No. It looks like they delayed sending us the email as their final coup d' grace...

I do not understand how played we have been by our union...why??
Yeah, it's real nice they sat on that one for a while. These guys just keep throwing gas on the fire.

What do you think the vote would have turned out like if we knew what we know now? JV settlement/China Air purchase/etc.

I'd go with 80/20. Would have been nice to have that extra leverage.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 06:44 PM
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This email ****ed me off. The union points out the number of jobs that where taken away and makes it sound like 30 million is a great settlement.

I want to know how much money did Delta make being out of compliance? When we find that number, that's the dollar amount we want.

There should be ZERO monetary benefit for the company to breach our contract.
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Old 07-27-2015 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by snowdawg
This email ****ed me off. The union points out the number of jobs that where taken away and makes it sound like 30 million is a great settlement.

I want to know how much money did Delta make being out of compliance? When we find that number, that's the dollar amount we want.

There should be ZERO monetary benefit for the company to breach our contract.
Agreed!

What would happen if 12,000 DAL pilots suddenly said "We're not going to honor our contract....we'll just not fly our last leg on our rotation".

The company would go ape-****** and would try to sue everyone involved.

The MEC, and the "shadow MEC" (the entrenched DALPA administration) just bent over and took pennies on the dollar for a CONTRACT VIOLATION.

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Old 07-27-2015 | 07:22 PM
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well im sure they would explain it to us not too smart line pilots as a simple 'mistake' on the part of the company.....

pilots using contractually authorized and earned sick leave is somehow decried by management and alpa rocket surgeons as despicable and 'abuse'.........while the willful violation of scope language by management results in what?
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