Whereisalpa

I can almost RMMDog growling as he reads that post!!

forgot to bid

Dues abuse? Is that like sick abuse?

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sailingfun

[QUOTE=Purple Drank;1974235]Speaking of abuse...has anyone seen the fat trip ALPA bought Donatelli so he could get recurrent?
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48 hr layover
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All coming out of our dues.[/deleted

DeadHead

Fraudulent Proxies?

Could you elaborate on what you mean? What, specifically, made the proxies fraudulent?

As someone who was there, the only think I witnessed was a persistent attempt to invalidate the proxies and drag out the meeting so pilots would miss there commuter flights.

RockyMtMadDog

For a proxy to be valid, it must be filled out entirely by the guy giving the proxy. He cannot leave blank any portion of the form, particularly the name of the pilot he is giving his proxy to. Several pilots witnessed Tibs and another pilot working a table where there was a printer. When pilots checking in were identified as being in favor of the recall and they were not carrying three proxies, they were directed to this table to be assigned proxies that had no proxy holder's name on them. Several pilots complained to the council chairman (Breelman), but he blew them off because he himself was in favor of the recall. Nice the way he threw his secretary treasurer under the bus.

newKnow

Maybe he couldn't decide either way and he just wanted it to go out to the members to decide.

Sort of how the MEC sent the TA out to us.

DeadHead

"For a proxy to be valid, it must be filled out entirely by the guy giving the proxy. He cannot leave blank any portion of the form, particularly the name of the pilot he is giving his proxy to."

Where exactly is that written? (For reference)

So either the person carrying the proxy or the person requesting the his/her proxy be carried must completly fill out the proxy...Is that what your saying? Both pilots would need to be in front of one another? Are the signatures going to be verified and checked by ALPA? Are electronic signatures authorized?

If ALPA had any interest in ensuring the integrity of the vote then they would have pilots in good standing supporting a resolution for recall send in a specific notarized request over a specific time period once the recall has been requested. Like I said earlier the only thing I witnessed was specific, targeted attempts to suppress the vote by a select number of DALPA reps.

The chairman didn't throw anyone under the bus, instead he listened and respected the interests, cares, and concerns of the pilots in his council. I know that might be a foreign concept to people like you, but once your back on the line and done attempting to undermine the betterment of this pilot group, it won't matter.

Fly safe

RockyMtMadDog

ALPA Constitution & Bylaws Article III Section 3G as interpreted by the ALPA Executive Council at its December 2000 meeting: “Proxy forms under Article III, Section 3G of the Constitution and By-Laws must be completed in their entirety and signed by the member giving the proxy, including the name of the proxy holder, when the form is signed.”

I believe that language is even included on many proxy forms that are floating around.

The person GIVING the proxy must fill it out including the name of the guy he is giving the proxy to.. Nobody else can enter the proxy holder's name. They do not need to be in front of each other. Electronic signatures are not authorized, and the council chairman has the responsibility to ensure proxies are valid.

Were any rules being violated or did they just disagree with your position?

The chairman was made aware that fraudulent proxies were being manufactured and did nothing about it. As such, Breelman was derelict in his duties. If you think dereliction of his duties constitutes listening to and respecting "the interests, cares, and concerns of the pilots in his council," then I'd suggest you need to reevaluate what "betterment of the pilot group" really means.

Wuzatforus

Then recall him.

RockyMtMadDog

Not a bad idea. Thanks!