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Old 09-18-2015 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
-$3,000 to $4,000 against C66 funds to create a perfect replica of a Chinese courthouse, their justice system, and respect for due process. On the other hand, they had some very tasty spring rolls, with that sweet-and-sour red sauce. De-li-cious!
Still shilling for the Moak doctrine I see there Sink. You're nothing if not persistent with your nonsense.

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Old 09-18-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Still shilling for the Moak doctrine I see there Sink. You're nothing if not persistent with your nonsense.

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How does this Moak do it? So many Moak followers, its disgusting. These boys would follow him to the trough.

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Old 09-18-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
How does this Moak do it? So many Moak followers, its disgusting. These boys would follow him to the trough.

TEN
There's no mystery to it. All the dictatorships behave the same way. Starts out with a smart man who is very insecure for many personal reasons. He builds a small army of "devoted" followers by giving them privileges that are so special, they're afraid to ever go back to their previous conditions. It's the classic methodology used for a small minority to control the majority...until the majority gets ****ssed.

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Old 09-18-2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanker1497
Here's an idea RMMD. Let's vote electronically, to vote electronically, for recall? That way, I don't have to listen to you and the other Dbags argue over an outdated system of voting that doesn't allow all that pay dues and are in good standing to participate in the process. What say you? Not willing to let everyone have a say in their union?
Focus. That was not the question. Focus.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Red herring.
So if fraudulent proxies made a difference in the outcome, you consider that a red herring? And the 66 chair ignored the complaints of those who witnessed the activity. Fail.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinsat7
So in other words using perfectly legit means to ensure voters didn't get disenfranchised. Let's face it, the way it stands now the system is designed to make participation a total hassle, like C44 holding the vote on the Friday before Labor Day.The only reason you're upset is they didn't vote the way you wanted.
If proxies were being assigned on the fly, then it was a violation of the constitution and bylaws, and those proxies should have been invalidated by a chairman who was more interested in ending the meeting than anything else.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
If proxies were being assigned on the fly, then it was a violation of the constitution and bylaws, and those proxies should have been invalidated by a chairman who was more interested in ending the meeting than anything else.
That is correct. At the Atlanta meeting several pilots put ballots in for pilots who had left the meeting. They knew they shouldn't have but did it anyway. My fellow pilots amaze me at times. They did get called on it and the requirements were reiterated for the next 3 votes with more observation.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is correct. At the Atlanta meeting several pilots put ballots in for pilots who had left the meeting. They knew they shouldn't have but did it anyway. My fellow pilots amaze me at times. They did get called on it and the requirements were reiterated for the next 3 votes with more observation.
And yet if the rules were being broken in the other direction, guys here would be marching forward with torches and pitchforks.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 11:58 AM
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Speaking of abuse...has anyone seen the fat trip ALPA bought Donatelli so he could get recurrent?
Atl-Dxb
48 hr layover
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All coming out of our dues.
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Old 09-18-2015 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
So if fraudulent proxies made a difference in the outcome, you consider that a red herring? And the 66 chair ignored the complaints of those who witnessed the activity. Fail.
Originally Posted by RockyMtMadDog
If proxies were being assigned on the fly, then it was a violation of the constitution and bylaws, and those proxies should have been invalidated by a chairman who was more interested in ending the meeting than anything else.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
That is correct. At the Atlanta meeting several pilots put ballots in for pilots who had left the meeting. They knew they shouldn't have but did it anyway. My fellow pilots amaze me at times. They did get called on it and the requirements were reiterated for the next 3 votes with more observation.
Nobody ignored anything ladies. If you have a complaint, state it to the MEC administration and it will get handled under our policies.

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