E195 pay rate
10-09-2015, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
JG said in the SLC roadshow yesterday that the E-190's we were going to get were about to be bought by United. This article backs that statement up.
10-09-2015, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
Take the 717 rate and divide by number of seats... then apply that rate to the E195. After that then raise the rates in TA2 by the same amount. I will not vote yes for a B scale or any other concession in TA2.
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10-09-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
JG said in the SLC roadshow yesterday that the E-190's we were going to get were about to be bought by United. This article backs that statement up.
You just landed on " Go Back To Start"
Did you actually read Bloomberg piece?
Everything JG says is now Gospel?
Try doing it again s-l-o-w-l-y for comprehension.
Where did it say that these 100 aircraft under consideration were the soon to be orphaned, early model, bug plagued, Air Canada Embraers?
Now, better yet, show me one shred of evidence that Delta actually cancelled the 737-900 that RA dangled.
One.
Oh yeah, while you are at it, get back to us on how many E 190s Air Canada actually has.
Hint: far less than 100.
That statement by JGand the subsequent link by Bucking and the follow on post are a complete hot mess.
10-09-2015, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
So if UAL still has not pulled the trigger on this deal what was the reason for the accelerated 30 day TA voting window?
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Previous 2Q2015 PRASM Revised guidance
American 4% to 6% decrease 6% to 8% decrease
Delta 2% to 4% decrease 4% to 5% decrease
United 4% to 6% decrease 5% to 6% decrease
Not saying I agree with the analytical result(s). Just reporting the data.
10-09-2015, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
At 100 jets, even if 20 are coming from Boeing there still needs to be another 80 ordered directly from Embraer, which DAL is still able to do. Furthermore, the article mentions that the 100 seat jet might also come from Bombardier, which would not be the jets that DAL was negotiating.
10-09-2015, 12:05 PM
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You might want to view the current rates on the E190 and E195. The concession you mention for the E190 is about a 37% raise.
B scale for the 190/195. It doesn't follow the trend. If you think its so good then vote yes for the next B scale contract and I'll vote NO.
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PS-37% raise? As compared to what?
10-09-2015, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You might want to view the current rates on the E190 and E195. The concession you mention for the E190 is about a 37% raise.
Sorry, that's what happens when you negotiate rates for airplanes you don't operate.
10-09-2015, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
Take the 717 rate and divide by number of seats... then apply that rate to the E195. After that then raise the rates in TA2 by the same amount. I will not vote yes for a B scale or any other concession in TA2.
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10-09-2015, 12:19 PM
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Bombardier has the awesome CSeries and Embraer has the EJets. Both awesome.
The Air Canada ones are probably meh jets though. If you believe JB's comments on that early batch of E190s which the Air Canada jets were a part of.
UAL probably like the Delta/DALPA sjs carrot and decided to play it.
The Air Canada ones are probably meh jets though. If you believe JB's comments on that early batch of E190s which the Air Canada jets were a part of.
UAL probably like the Delta/DALPA sjs carrot and decided to play it.
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